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this hope radiates for the masses

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Atlanta between July 8 1947 here on the

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airport has announced that applying the

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- found and is now in the possession of

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the RA the game is rigged

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changed the game changer I occasionally

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think how quickly our differences

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worldwide would vanish if we were facing

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this is fade to black with your host

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Jimmy Church on the game changer radio

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network and a GRA the global radio

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I need your help to get to a year 1985

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you're listening to fade to black with

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well-well-well he here

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this radio for the masses yep at today's

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Wednesday September 20th two hundred and

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sixty three days into the new year just

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102 days left we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world Hall

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across the United States hither and

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thither to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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and near

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer networking Kate GRA the

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planets

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I'm your host Jimmy Church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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Wednesday nights

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looking at all of these fantastic

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dancing gifts I'm just clicking hearts

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all the way down in Twitter does heart

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heart heart heart heart heart heart

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heart Jimmy Page and so I'm talking

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about follow us on twitter at JT radio

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very simple met J church radio check out

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these gift Karen that is a big bowl of

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wrong with organic milk but that's gonna

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get a retweet right there that's pretty

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cool that's where to go

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how many mo that is that real is that

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like battery powered at working stuffed

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animal you guys are the best fader nots

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unbelievable family that we have here

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tonight very special guest Sharon Rose

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she's going to be with us we're gonna

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have an entire Egypt to India Divine

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Feminine history lesson tonight and I

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love it when I say it we're gonna get

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our education on yeah you're gonna get

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your diploma tonight a history lesson

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classic fade to black

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I just love it when that goes down

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tomorrow's another failure night with

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Jon Rappoport by the way and he's gonna

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be here where there's no more fake

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newsroom live and followed by open lines

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all night long and then we roll over to

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coast to coast am tonight Sharon Rhodes

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is going to be here again

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in Egypt to India ancient Egypt to India

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Divine Feminine history lesson and we're

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gonna discuss a little bit of everything

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tonight with with Sharon now tomorrow

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night Jon Rappoport is gonna be here

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fade to black fader Nights he's gonna be

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here with there's no more fake newsroom

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live followed by open lines all night

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long Friday night I'll go over to coast

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to coast my guess will be Dane Wigington

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and we are going to discuss

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geoengineering geoengineering the

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weather and is this what is going on

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what Maria just did

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to puerto rico dominican republic is

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next is the United States going to get

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touched we don't know but well Porto

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Rico is the United States and then of

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course the devastating earthquake in

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Mexico the second one in a week on the

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anniversary of the great Mexico City

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earthquake right so that will be Friday

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night followed by open lines and then

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which is September 23rd supposed to be

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the end of the world and and it's

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supposed to kick off over in Jerusalem

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in the skies and then it's it's supposed

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to happen a seven headed dragon so will

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it bring down coast to coast well that's

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what I'm going to do over at coast on

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Saturday night I'm gonna have an end of

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the world party I will announce coast to

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coast we'll announce my guests tomorrow

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night I don't want to preempt them but

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it is you know it's September 23rd the

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end of the world so there you go I have

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to do an end of the world celebration so

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that will be Saturday night over on

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coasts and then know what I am doing

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over coasts which is something rare but

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I am going to go to open lines I'm going

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to talk to everybody all around the

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world about the end of the world that

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should be that should be going down

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during our broadcast so we've got a very

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busy week here and Sunday we'll take the

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day off okay alright I get to take the

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afternoon off all right okay let's get

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this show crack and follow us on Twitter

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everything is fade to black Jimmy Church

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radio fade to black

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and Jimmy Church radio it's all good

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okay all right I don't know what's

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really weird here is the technology that

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just have one microphone and no phone

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calls and no guests right okay very

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simple setup there once you get into

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extra phone lines for callers and guests

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and video cameras and and the bunker cam

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technical setup one little thing goes

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down and you have to just suss it out

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very fortunate that all of these years

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that we have broadcast and and if you

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think about it out of all of the years

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weird tweet that's a weird tweet I don't

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know what's going on you tell me who

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post that mark that is a meaningless

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eye and there's nothing there Jimmy at

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Jimmy Church radio calm is the email if

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you want to question comment or do

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anything during the show Jimmy and Jimmy

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have my sacred skull on the bunker today

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that are coming in and be why it's

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because it's a family and if I use the

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product if it is something that I use

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stand behind then they become an sponsor

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we just don't we just don't take the

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this show crackin happy birthday to

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today the one and only Sofia Loren is 83

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Sophia Loren author george RR martin

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yeah Game of Thrones today is 69 years

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old you know what he drives I don't know

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if you know this you know what he drives

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he drives a DeLorean Back to the Future

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DeLorean he drive that's what he dropped

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as what new drives I suppose I would too

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if I could all right

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Oh TV on this day in history

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Oh TD 1963 speaking at the United

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Nations president john f kennedy

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suggests that the Soviet Union and the

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United States get together and cooperate

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on a mission to the moon now the

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proposal caught both the Soviets and the

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Americans off-guard nobody knew that

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this was coming right freaked everybody

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you stop and think about it we won the

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space race but nonetheless and then lost

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it but nonetheless this is the strange

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part it was on this day 90

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sixty three two months later he was

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assassinated in Dallas Texas there you

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go on the same history fader fact all

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right I'm doing this for my daughters

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and my wife fader fact the Japanese word

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for handbag is Han dubaku matt is a

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fader fact tonight's very special guest

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Sharon Rose is going to be with us in

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just a few short minutes at the bottom

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of the hour

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and we are going on a history lesson

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ancient Egypt to India the Divine

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Feminine history tomorrow night's

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another Fator night with Jon Rappoport

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and there's no more fake newsroom live

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and this weekend I'm over at

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coast-to-coast a ham now for almost two

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weeks now Equifax has been now and you

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remember what happened right half of

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America third third 140 million social

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security numbers were released onto the

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darknet hacked

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Equifax hacked right your information is

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in the hands of the dark web right now

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and if if you're one of the lucky ones

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well the other person sitting with you

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your friend your boss your coworker your

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son daughter their information has been

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compromised

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okay now for almost two weeks Equifax

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has been sending people affected by

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their massive security breach to a bogus

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website the non-malicious creator of the

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imposter site was out to prove a point

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about Equifax is model for post breach

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consumer assistance now in a tweet

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yesterday an Equifax representative who

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went by the name Tim now just insert a

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Monty Python reference right there wrote

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yesterday hi for more information about

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the product at an enrollment please

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visit security Equifax 2017 dot-com now

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that sounds familiar doesn't it because

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I visited it okay more on that just a

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bit

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I tried to register right the tweet was

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sent out in response to a question about

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Equifax is free credit monitoring

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program for consumers affected by the

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company's recent date data breach now

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the only problem is that not the

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original URL and website the embattled

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company set up for consumers it's not

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the original one

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Equifax is official site information

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related to the incident is called

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Equifax security 2017 hmm

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do you get it too you understand the

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tweet was deleted on Wednesday morning

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today but was live on the internet for

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almost 18 hours straight

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now it gets worse eight tweets and all

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were sent out by Equifax Equifax

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directing people to the fake site and

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this fake site has been up since

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September 9th as of Showtime tonight the

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remaining 7 tweets directing customers

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to the wrong site were still live the

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look like websites URL is titled

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security Equifax 2017 and was created by

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developer Nick Sweeting Sweeting created

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the site to point out the danger of

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Equifax his decision to create a portal

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called Equifax security 2017 because of

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fears that malicious hackers could

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easily do people and steal their

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information again by simply creating a

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look-alike site as Sweeting did when he

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switched around the word security and

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Equifax Sweeting says that his

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intentions were purely to point out that

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Equifax acted recklessly and their

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handling of the people's information

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after the incident earlier this month

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and they did why because I went and

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tried to register myself and I was a bit

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confused because Equifax was literally

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saying and if you went to and I

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double-checked this is what I did I saw

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the original Equifax

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I then went to a bunch of different

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mainstream media websites that had the

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Equifax story in it and in that story it

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said

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Equifax has created a free credit

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reporting service all you have to do is

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click here and this was in the

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mainstream media all the way around I'm

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looking I'm like okay alright so I was

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clicking on the Equifax website and it

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took me to a site that just didn't feel

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right didn't look right I'm thinking man

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Equifax what's going on here so then I

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went to the mainstream media sites I'm

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thinking this has got to be safe they

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know what they're doing right now would

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I clicked on those and they were taking

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me to this bogus website and in fact I

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think a fourth site I'm not gonna say

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who it was took me to another site all

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together and that flagged my software my

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virus software now I'm thinking what's

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what's going on here is the Equifax

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story true right is is the links here

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what is going on and it says Equifax

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secure I go to the Equifax web site

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they've got a link there and it's taken

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me over to what appears to be the same

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bogus website I didn't know what was

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going on when I went and I attempted to

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log in and register it wouldn't do it

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and it kept kicking me back out from the

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Equifax website kicking me out and then

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to another web site and then on my

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screen I was getting spam ads popping up

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you know the old days now I've got

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pretty severe software that I run here

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okay

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I feel like I'm pretty locked out as

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locked down as as one can be right okay

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I haven't seen spam ads pop up on a

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screen in a long time and I was getting

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it from the Equifax website something

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was funky right now Sweeting although he

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said he had the best of intentions and I

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get that I'm quoting here he said it's

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in everyone's interest to get Equifax to

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change this site to a reputable domain

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and I thought this same

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thing what is this security Equifax 2017

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or Equifax security 2070 it's like this

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weird it's a weird you know why not have

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it inside the Equifax website you go to

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Equifax their website and you click on a

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link that literally says sign up here

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right and it doesn't take you out to

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some sub domain another website stay

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inside it's crazy right so human I'd say

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I knew it would only cost me $10 to set

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up a site that would get people to

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notice so I just did it

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trippy right the developer commented on

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the real threats facing people who

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choose to continue visiting Equifax is

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website it only took me 20 minutes to

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build my clone I can guarantee that

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there are real malicious phishing

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versions already out there right after

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Equifax announced their epic data breach

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earlier this month they started sending

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customers affected by the breach to

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Equifax security 2017 dot-com in order

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to offer those affected by the the

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incident the chance to enroll in

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identity theft protection services and

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post updates on site on the on the

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entire incident itself the massive

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breach which expose highly confidential

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information such as people's social

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security numbers affected over 140

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million customers in the United States

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consumers 140 million and I'm here to

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tell you I could not could not register

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every site that I went from Equifax and

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Equifax tweed and Equifax press release

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any mainstream media website everything

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that I did steered me in another

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direction it was all bogus it was all

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bogus somebody win it and I'm telling

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you that Equifax security it's called

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Equifax security 2015 dot-com their

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website I think that is compromised I

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could not get through it's absolutely

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bizarre now on another note I did

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made a comment about this last night I

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don't want to follow up on this before I

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get Sharon in here the entire fake news

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situation that we dealt with in 2016 and

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now which forces us to and I swear I

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swear if I see mainstream media on

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television I know what I mean told you

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is a lie

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I just know it's just all you know but I

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need to go there

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I need updates I want to know what's

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going on with these hurricanes and and

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in Mexico City and and some of this you

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know the natural disasters that are

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going out of the world you know you have

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to and then when that is inter played in

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between and it doesn't matter what

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network you're on then they go to you

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00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:02,470
know all of this this this bogus

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opinionated Talking Heads stuff that is

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going on with the United Nations or

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Trump or or Syria it's just all bogus

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stuff it's if you do you know it's just

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all BS and and this thing popped up with

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CNN about Manta forts phones being

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tapped now what is bizarre here is if

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you are one of the other news outlets or

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if you're Trump or if you are a

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supporter on that side it doesn't matter

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I'm not a supporter of either what do

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you believe now you are forced into

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because everybody was pointing fingers

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00:23:47,740 --> 00:23:45,320
for so long about fake news here fake

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00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:47,750
news air this is fake news now everybody

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00:23:53,700 --> 00:23:50,650
is forced into saying this and

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especially if you are a trump supporter

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00:24:00,850 --> 00:23:56,450
you are forced into going well you know

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00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:00,860
it was it's all BS from CNN but this is

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00:24:07,060 --> 00:24:04,159
true and see we told you this was going

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00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:07,070
on all along and and it's got

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00:24:11,350 --> 00:24:09,530
everybody's heads on ass what's gone

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00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:11,360
back and forth so many times now you

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00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:13,130
don't know what to believe and if you

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are forced into saying well everything

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00:24:20,500 --> 00:24:18,230
was bogus but this is real if that is

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the position that you want to take then

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you are damaged your opinion doesn't

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matter it's tough man and it goes to

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show everything

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I had talked about in all of 2016 you

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don't know what to believe

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so with this story here right with the

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phone tapping which may be true it may

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be an actual real story flip that over a

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hundred and eighty degrees this may be

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00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:48,059
true story Huff of see it out of all the

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00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:51,570
networks right of all of them what is

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00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:54,450
the real truth behind it that's the

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00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:56,370
bizarre situation we find ourselves in

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00:25:04,279 --> 00:24:59,039
today we don't know what's going on and

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seriously take my original advice still

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watch it at all man just watch it for

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00:25:12,169 --> 00:25:09,530
the real stuff what's the real stuff

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we've got natural disasters going on

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we've got craziness in Mexico City with

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uh with that earthquake we have

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00:25:21,289 --> 00:25:18,390
hurricane after hurricane after

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hurricane things are not watch it for

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that if you need to

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this is fade to black I'm your host

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Jimmy Church truly bespoke radio for the

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masses our guest tonight

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Sharon Rose I'll be back in just a

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couple of minutes with our guest

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Sharon Rose stay with us

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interactive on this show tonight our

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guest is Sharon Rose she is a true

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renaissance woman now she received her

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diploma from the Peabody Conservatory of

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Music a BA in theater from the

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University of Maryland and an MA in

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education from George Washington

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University then became a member of the

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new york city's vital dance theater

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performance art scene filmmaker

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choreographer composer author teacher

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performer she transits the worlds of art

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and commerce in a unique and compelling

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away now in the realm of filmmaking

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Sharon is also producer the visionary

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feature film the last avatar writer

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director host of the documentary films

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2012 the odyssey and time wave 2013 she

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is the executive producer of the

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documentary infinity the ultimate trip

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and producer of the film's in the sacred

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mysteries DVD collection since 2000 she

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has been president of the film

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distribution company sacred mysteries

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distribution and VP of sacred mysteries

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00:31:04,510 --> 00:31:02,750
productions she is the author of the

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award-winning book the path of the

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priestess a guidebook for awakening and

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00:31:11,230 --> 00:31:09,500
the Divine Feminine tonight we're gonna

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do all of that we're gonna go back in

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history we're gonna discuss the Divine

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Feminine from ancient Egypt to India all

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the way through to today and current

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world events this will be a true not to

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miss show this evening her website is

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sacred mysteries calm and I would like

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to welcome for the first time to fade to

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black

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Sharon row Sharon good evening good

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evening it's such a pleasure to be with

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you the honor and pleasure is all ours

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00:31:39,790 --> 00:31:38,060
but Sharon tonight because you're a

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first-time guest you get the first-time

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guests disclaimer which is this it's

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just you and I sitting on my couch

654
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having a conversation as friends and

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00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,410
where the conversation starts it starts

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00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:50,240
where it ends it ends but we're gonna

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end as friends are you ready to go ahead

658
00:32:03,610 --> 00:32:01,610
certainly the the path that one takes

659
00:32:06,850 --> 00:32:03,620
throughout life and I do want to start

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here because I look back and we were

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00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:08,780
talking about this before the show our

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parents influences our family influences

663
00:32:16,450 --> 00:32:14,570
how we grow up and where we grow up take

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us back there because where you are

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today you're in a unique position to

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spread knowledge throughout the world

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00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:24,050
but you got here somehow how did you

668
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grow up what were your parents like did

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they have an open mind or did you do all

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of this on your own well we could say

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part of it is karma but I came into a

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upper middle class Jewish family in

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Baltimore

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my mom had gone to college at 14 she had

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also been a tap dancer so the minute

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let's say at nine months I started

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walking and the minute I started walking

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she taught me to dance she had a very

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powerful impact on me she took me to her

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sweating she would call it to dance

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classes singing classes acting classes

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throughout my childhood and all of those

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things gave me a really unique

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perspective on reality my dad at the

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same time had a chain of supermarkets in

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Baltimore all in the black neighborhoods

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so very young I was surrounded by

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african-american culture and due to him

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I believed enter I believe that I was

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raised without a sense of difference

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without offense of prejudice I'm very

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grateful to them for that and also for

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the incredible artistic training my dad

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of course supported financially all

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this training so but at the same time

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you know I was a little odd you know

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they were Jewish family Here I am going

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off into India and Tibet all of these

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different countries so my mom hung in

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with me my dad at times that I was

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really strange yeah but still

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yeah go ahead rule out throughout all

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this I felt their love and support of

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them and my family and that's the

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creative side the artistic side and then

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we have the supernatural I'm just using

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00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:35,720
generic terms here the supernatural you

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00:34:41,730 --> 00:34:38,570
know the alchemy the mystery schools and

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00:34:45,399 --> 00:34:41,740
and everything else that you speak about

710
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:45,409
with such clarity how are they with that

711
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:49,250
side was there an alchemical side to a a

712
00:34:56,290 --> 00:34:53,330
Jewish upbringing in the Northeast I'm

713
00:34:59,620 --> 00:34:56,300
not really my mom always does her best

714
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to understand Who I am

715
00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:01,400
and she'll talk to me about these things

716
00:35:05,140 --> 00:35:04,550
but they're very embedded in the Jewish

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00:35:07,570 --> 00:35:05,150
tradition

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00:35:11,380 --> 00:35:07,580
she was happy when I discovered the

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Safina and she loves my scholarly work

720
00:35:19,270 --> 00:35:15,380
and you know they just deal with me and

721
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:19,280
so I'm very curious because when

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somebody has the the turn in life where

723
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you have a decision to make and you go

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into the mystery schools in that kind of

725
00:35:35,230 --> 00:35:32,630
history what happened for you did you

726
00:35:37,210 --> 00:35:35,240
did did something happen in your life

727
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:37,220
that was maybe supernatural that you

728
00:35:45,790 --> 00:35:43,130
couldn't explain oh I was trained very

729
00:35:49,260 --> 00:35:45,800
young I would say starting in acting

730
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:49,270
school we were trained to we had

731
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exercises like go to the mall sit there

732
00:35:57,190 --> 00:35:55,460
and look at everybody look at how they

733
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walk look at how they hold their bodies

734
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look at the expressions on their faces

735
00:36:08,860 --> 00:36:05,420
and I think that was the beginning of my

736
00:36:11,530 --> 00:36:08,870
pursuit of the world of healing the

737
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:11,540
world of energy medicine

738
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:14,690
and actually know there is a

739
00:36:22,740 --> 00:36:17,210
metaphysical my grandmother my dad

740
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:22,750
mother rose she was very much into Cairo

741
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:26,510
some metaphysics things like that so

742
00:36:32,830 --> 00:36:29,570
that was there and there is a psychic

743
00:36:34,330 --> 00:36:32,840
line I would say through my dad's family

744
00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:34,340
a lot of them had red hair red hair

745
00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:36,200
people are really known for their

746
00:36:43,870 --> 00:36:39,230
psychic abilities so but I would say

747
00:36:46,230 --> 00:36:43,880
that the real beginning happened in the

748
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:46,240
let's see when was this this was about

749
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:52,190
76 it was a time if you recall yes you

750
00:37:03,100 --> 00:36:57,290
might recall of psychedelics so I took a

751
00:37:06,430 --> 00:37:03,110
bunch of mushrooms and I had this I felt

752
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:06,440
like I was dying everything the whole

753
00:37:13,170 --> 00:37:08,810
world started dissolving around me and

754
00:37:17,530 --> 00:37:13,180
then the next thing I knew I was a

755
00:37:21,250 --> 00:37:17,540
goddess and I was sitting there in front

756
00:37:24,220 --> 00:37:21,260
of me in the sky was Shiva and I was

757
00:37:26,380 --> 00:37:24,230
doing Indian dance which I mean I was a

758
00:37:28,540 --> 00:37:26,390
modern dancer and a ballet dancer I

759
00:37:30,970 --> 00:37:28,550
really didn't know anything about Indian

760
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:30,980
dance but it it seemed that every

761
00:37:37,210 --> 00:37:34,010
gesture every mudra every posture I was

762
00:37:41,590 --> 00:37:37,220
doing was actually creating the reality

763
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:41,600
around me and that was the beginning of

764
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:44,090
an extraordinary journey in my life that

765
00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:47,330
led me to India to be with my teacher

766
00:37:56,260 --> 00:37:52,430
Sitara devi who was a early Bollywood

767
00:38:00,120 --> 00:37:56,270
star taught Rika a queen of North Indian

768
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:00,130
classical dance and I got to live

769
00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:02,110
one-to-one

770
00:38:07,090 --> 00:38:04,550
she gave away the rest of her students

771
00:38:08,830 --> 00:38:07,100
when I went to live with her and I got a

772
00:38:12,340 --> 00:38:08,840
what we refer to as a direct

773
00:38:15,550 --> 00:38:12,350
transmission of knowledge that's that's

774
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:15,560
a really good place to go to first not

775
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:18,110
only for you in life but also for this

776
00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:20,730
show in conversation

777
00:38:26,780 --> 00:38:23,220
and I'm gonna say this when you discover

778
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:26,790
India and you start to understand the

779
00:38:34,340 --> 00:38:29,250
culture and how old it is and and what

780
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:34,350
it represents my take is this India is

781
00:38:40,010 --> 00:38:37,680
ignored it's ignored it's ignored in

782
00:38:42,410 --> 00:38:40,020
popular culture it's ignored in the

783
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:42,420
history books and and what I mean by

784
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:44,910
that is it's easy to make the references

785
00:38:52,790 --> 00:38:49,050
to Egypt or or to Greece or to Rome and

786
00:38:53,930 --> 00:38:52,800
that's the simple road to go India tends

787
00:38:57,140 --> 00:38:53,940
to be ignored

788
00:38:59,330 --> 00:38:57,150
was it brand-new to you as well and and

789
00:39:01,820 --> 00:38:59,340
did you see that sense of wonderment

790
00:39:05,990 --> 00:39:01,830
because it's basically ignored in our

791
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:06,000
history books over here well I had I

792
00:39:11,690 --> 00:39:08,370
first encountered the teachings of India

793
00:39:17,170 --> 00:39:11,700
when was that when I went to New York so

794
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:17,180
that was 74 and I that's when I

795
00:39:26,350 --> 00:39:22,610
encountered meditation and yoga and so

796
00:39:30,260 --> 00:39:26,360
during that time you know India was

797
00:39:35,180 --> 00:39:30,270
Indian music and meditation and yoga

798
00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:35,190
were just coming in to the west so that

799
00:39:40,910 --> 00:39:38,430
was the beginning of it but to be in

800
00:39:43,730 --> 00:39:40,920
India and I'm very grateful I was

801
00:39:45,350 --> 00:39:43,740
supported by fellowships from the

802
00:39:49,780 --> 00:39:45,360
American government for all my work in

803
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:49,790
India so they did wonderful things and

804
00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:53,610
but living amidst this culture where I

805
00:40:00,200 --> 00:39:56,910
was just like a sponge you know I was so

806
00:40:04,220 --> 00:40:00,210
excited and and also I was very blessed

807
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:04,230
in that my teacher had was part of this

808
00:40:09,830 --> 00:40:07,110
whole milieu of being friends with

809
00:40:12,980 --> 00:40:09,840
people like Ravi Shankar Ali Akbar Khan

810
00:40:16,930 --> 00:40:12,990
the very very famous musician Zakir

811
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:16,940
Hussain and so I was immersed in this

812
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:22,110
very high level of artistry and if you

813
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:24,930
know Indian music it goes back and back

814
00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:27,210
sayings danced back and back and back I

815
00:40:33,110 --> 00:40:29,820
mean the dance is it North Indian dance

816
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:33,120
kata is a transformational tantric form

817
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:34,319
in which

818
00:40:40,999 --> 00:40:37,680
you are the storyteller you become all

819
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:41,009
of the deities and the demons and apples

820
00:40:48,890 --> 00:40:44,729
in the stories actually that's how the

821
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:48,900
Vedic tradition was transmitted to the

822
00:40:57,949 --> 00:40:51,930
general public in India so so not only

823
00:41:00,170 --> 00:40:57,959
did I become immersed in what it felt

824
00:41:02,989 --> 00:41:00,180
like to be an Indian woman my teacher

825
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:02,999
she told me we're throwing away all your

826
00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:04,650
western clothes you can only dress in

827
00:41:09,019 --> 00:41:06,660
the Sarah you have to understand what it

828
00:41:12,469 --> 00:41:09,029
feels like to be the goddess what it

829
00:41:16,339 --> 00:41:12,479
feels like to be an Indian woman so it

830
00:41:19,370 --> 00:41:16,349
was an extraordinary adventure how long

831
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:19,380
how long did that that teaching go on

832
00:41:26,359 --> 00:41:23,609
for well I lived with her for eight

833
00:41:29,059 --> 00:41:26,369
months then I was she came to visit me

834
00:41:32,449 --> 00:41:29,069
in the US I went back and then I had

835
00:41:35,709 --> 00:41:32,459
this senior Fulbright so I was in India

836
00:41:39,890 --> 00:41:35,719
over five years about half the time

837
00:41:42,859 --> 00:41:39,900
learning the stance and the mythology

838
00:41:47,029 --> 00:41:42,869
and the music and the rhythm you know

839
00:41:49,009 --> 00:41:47,039
this is a a unbroken lineage that means

840
00:41:52,699 --> 00:41:49,019
that it's gone from teacher to student

841
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:52,709
for thousands of years right and it had

842
00:41:58,279 --> 00:41:55,920
been what they call ear whispered where

843
00:42:02,509 --> 00:41:58,289
you're getting the direct transmissions

844
00:42:04,849 --> 00:42:02,519
from the teacher so you were along with

845
00:42:06,620 --> 00:42:04,859
the dance and and and being transformed

846
00:42:07,699 --> 00:42:06,630
that's pretty interesting all of your

847
00:42:09,949 --> 00:42:07,709
Western clothes

848
00:42:13,759 --> 00:42:09,959
those go in the trash or get put away

849
00:42:15,859 --> 00:42:13,769
and you become an Indian woman did you

850
00:42:22,449 --> 00:42:15,869
did you feel that you made that

851
00:42:28,370 --> 00:42:26,599
there's this incredible book they're not

852
00:42:31,459 --> 00:42:28,380
just Shastra which they call v data

853
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:31,469
which is a text on indian dance music

854
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:34,049
etc and another one called the abbey

855
00:42:41,689 --> 00:42:38,640
nayad Arcana so those are about there

856
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:41,699
are 42 different expressions of the eyes

857
00:42:47,660 --> 00:42:46,170
and the emotion each connected with the

858
00:42:51,290 --> 00:42:47,670
different emotional state

859
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:51,300
so in that was one of the mechanisms

860
00:42:58,700 --> 00:42:56,250
through which I learned how to embody it

861
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:58,710
it wasn't just your average Indian well

862
00:43:06,020 --> 00:43:01,920
I was learning to embody the goddess the

863
00:43:09,070 --> 00:43:06,030
deities and and what's interesting is

864
00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:09,080
that because I come out of modern dance

865
00:43:14,330 --> 00:43:12,060
the first dance that my teacher taught

866
00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:14,340
me was of she the god shiva male because

867
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:16,950
she said I danced and walked and acted

868
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:19,650
like a man that Western women were more

869
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:22,650
masculine and so it took a long time

870
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:28,130
you know over months I was trained and

871
00:43:37,250 --> 00:43:32,970
went through a lot of inner work to

872
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:37,260
soften to confined a level of grace at

873
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:39,960
the same time you know to transform into

874
00:43:45,850 --> 00:43:42,090
like the goddess Durga the wrathful

875
00:43:50,330 --> 00:43:45,860
powerful one or you know the sensuous

876
00:43:53,330 --> 00:43:50,340
Lakshmi it was a really amazing

877
00:43:56,540 --> 00:43:53,340
experience that transformed my life and

878
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:56,550
gave me the basis from which I could

879
00:44:00,040 --> 00:43:57,890
look at all these different cultures

880
00:44:03,860 --> 00:44:00,050
India Tibet

881
00:44:08,390 --> 00:44:03,870
Gnosticism and Kabbalah and actually now

882
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:08,400
I'm doing a film on chi gong and Taoism

883
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:13,710
yeah did you understand the masculine

884
00:44:19,340 --> 00:44:16,530
and feminine feminine before you went to

885
00:44:22,010 --> 00:44:19,350
India or we know what actually the

886
00:44:27,290 --> 00:44:22,020
question is this your understanding of

887
00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:27,300
it did it turn out to be all wrong it

888
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:34,830
certainly was well first of all yeah I

889
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:37,680
went to college in 66 so there was the

890
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:40,110
Vietnam war going on and the feminist

891
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:44,220
movement and like many women I was

892
00:44:51,380 --> 00:44:48,570
excited by it you know it seemed like we

893
00:44:56,540 --> 00:44:51,390
were breaking free of what we felt were

894
00:45:00,080 --> 00:44:56,550
the bonds that held women and from this

895
00:45:01,370 --> 00:45:00,090
perspective after so many years I see

896
00:45:03,859 --> 00:45:01,380
the benefits but I

897
00:45:08,329 --> 00:45:03,869
so see the problems that came about

898
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:08,339
through feminism and and that Verte that

899
00:45:12,410 --> 00:45:09,930
and that's what I'm referring to right

900
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:12,420
there I'm glad you got it what was going

901
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:15,960
on here and you go there that feminine

902
00:45:21,609 --> 00:45:18,690
over there through ancient culture is

903
00:45:24,289 --> 00:45:21,619
not the feminine that was being

904
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:24,299
protested here in the United States

905
00:45:30,019 --> 00:45:26,460
right or wrong but it was two different

906
00:45:31,519 --> 00:45:30,029
things wasn't it it was it was very very

907
00:45:34,249 --> 00:45:31,529
different although you know the

908
00:45:35,870 --> 00:45:34,259
patriarchy we're in the time hopefully

909
00:45:40,210 --> 00:45:35,880
we're going to move out of it but we're

910
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:40,220
still in this patriarchal war based

911
00:45:46,219 --> 00:45:44,400
world so even in India I was fortunate

912
00:45:48,859 --> 00:45:46,229
all my life have been fortunate to be

913
00:45:50,930 --> 00:45:48,869
with artists and artists you know are

914
00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:50,940
different they have different

915
00:45:56,930 --> 00:45:53,430
sensibility different take on reality

916
00:45:59,960 --> 00:45:56,940
then and generally at least the artists

917
00:46:05,680 --> 00:45:59,970
that I associate with are are doing

918
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:05,690
their best to bring people together to I

919
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:09,210
would say that my work in general from

920
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:10,710
the beginning I remember everybody was

921
00:46:15,469 --> 00:46:13,200
out protesting then it's an example

922
00:46:17,299 --> 00:46:15,479
they're all out protesting you know and

923
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:17,309
they're saying and I'm like I'm not

924
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,960
going there's like why I said well

925
00:46:24,529 --> 00:46:21,359
because I'm gonna do everything to

926
00:46:29,150 --> 00:46:24,539
perfect my art so that I will be able to

927
00:46:33,499 --> 00:46:29,160
speak through it and that's what I've

928
00:46:34,190 --> 00:46:33,509
been doing ever since I remember I'll

929
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:34,200
trip you out

930
00:46:41,690 --> 00:46:38,910
I was probably this is 70 I'm probably 7

931
00:46:44,089 --> 00:46:41,700
or 8 years old right and I'm living on

932
00:46:46,009 --> 00:46:44,099
campus or at the edge of Western

933
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:46,019
Michigan University my dad's going to

934
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:48,390
school he's going back for his degree in

935
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:52,890
music so I go down and I'm just a kid

936
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,529
and there's a protest going on down at

937
00:47:00,769 --> 00:46:57,839
the these mirror pools and in front of

938
00:47:02,349 --> 00:47:00,779
the the main building there at Western

939
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:02,359
Michigan and I got out and I'm looking

940
00:47:06,349 --> 00:47:04,710
approaching me and I see the protesters

941
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:06,359
behind with the signs and everything's a

942
00:47:14,930 --> 00:47:09,930
couple of a thousand but approaching me

943
00:47:18,829 --> 00:47:14,940
is about maybe 100

944
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:18,839
hippies locked arm and arm in a line and

945
00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:22,890
they're coming up across this this field

946
00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:26,190
and I'm walking towards them and it's

947
00:47:30,349 --> 00:47:28,230
the whole thing it's the leather jackets

948
00:47:32,410 --> 00:47:30,359
with the in with the fringe and you know

949
00:47:34,660 --> 00:47:32,420
the belts and the bell-bottoms and

950
00:47:36,890 --> 00:47:34,670
headbands and the whole trip right

951
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:36,900
anyway they're walking to her and I walk

952
00:47:42,050 --> 00:47:39,569
up and I'm he said what are you guys

953
00:47:44,990 --> 00:47:42,060
doing and I thought man this looks kind

954
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:45,000
of cool and and somebody said to me were

955
00:47:50,660 --> 00:47:48,510
protesting the war man and they walked

956
00:47:52,730 --> 00:47:50,670
past me and I thought that's the most

957
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:52,740
beautiful thing I've ever seen their arm

958
00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:55,890
and arm and they're protesting and it's

959
00:48:02,900 --> 00:47:58,530
supposed to be crazy and it wasn't but

960
00:48:05,420 --> 00:48:02,910
that's what was going on in 1969 1970

961
00:48:07,609 --> 00:48:05,430
here in the United States and and I was

962
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:07,619
witness to all of this the children

963
00:48:13,130 --> 00:48:10,770
today society today doesn't really

964
00:48:16,450 --> 00:48:13,140
understand what the 60s were were

965
00:48:19,819 --> 00:48:16,460
actually like it's like a distant memory

966
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:19,829
well the sixties there was this

967
00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:24,210
incredible opening and what's really sad

968
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:27,660
is that a lot of those people instead of

969
00:48:33,230 --> 00:48:29,970
moving forth with that opening and

970
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:33,240
continuing that opening just fell into

971
00:48:42,589 --> 00:48:37,920
the cult of consumerism and the me

972
00:48:45,380 --> 00:48:42,599
generation and I think that that has led

973
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:45,390
us to the difficulties were in right now

974
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:48,450
yeah and and when we get back out for

975
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:50,430
the break we are going to talk about

976
00:48:59,210 --> 00:48:53,730
that and I want to before we get there I

977
00:49:02,780 --> 00:48:59,220
want to discuss the the Divine Feminine

978
00:49:04,130 --> 00:49:02,790
that you found and learned about in

979
00:49:08,180 --> 00:49:04,140
India

980
00:49:10,010 --> 00:49:08,190
compared to Egypt in ancient Egypt

981
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:10,020
because your research there is also

982
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:14,480
second to none is it the same approach

983
00:49:20,540 --> 00:49:17,970
to in both cultures what did they

984
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:20,550
understand so many thousands of years

985
00:49:26,620 --> 00:49:23,280
ago that we don't today and did they

986
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:31,790
mm-hmm well it can be Egypt is very

987
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:34,140
interesting because when I look back

988
00:49:41,660 --> 00:49:37,260
into it what it feels like is that the

989
00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:41,670
Egyptians came from another you know

990
00:49:47,180 --> 00:49:44,760
maybe from Sirius from another star

991
00:49:49,849 --> 00:49:47,190
system or even another dimension because

992
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:49,859
it seems like if you look back to

993
00:49:57,980 --> 00:49:52,050
beginnings it seems like they were newly

994
00:50:00,320 --> 00:49:57,990
embodied and they had a reverence for

995
00:50:01,810 --> 00:50:00,330
the physical body as though it was the

996
00:50:06,609 --> 00:50:01,820
temple of the Spirit

997
00:50:10,250 --> 00:50:06,619
how so well if you look at the work of

998
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:10,260
sweller de Lubitz he wrote to the temple

999
00:50:18,050 --> 00:50:15,210
of math he took the temple of man which

1000
00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:18,060
is a temple of looks Luxor was actually

1001
00:50:24,260 --> 00:50:21,390
built in the shape of a human being and

1002
00:50:26,349 --> 00:50:24,270
all the different chambers where

1003
00:50:32,570 --> 00:50:26,359
different initiations would take place

1004
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:32,580
were built upon the human body were

1005
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:36,330
based upon the human body you're talking

1006
00:50:40,670 --> 00:50:38,010
about from the entrance of the temple

1007
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:40,680
all the way to the back and you looked

1008
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:42,930
at it from the air yeah yeah exactly

1009
00:50:48,940 --> 00:50:46,410
right right and it seemed if you look at

1010
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:48,950
their teachings it seemed like they were

1011
00:50:56,030 --> 00:50:53,520
newly embodied that nature was

1012
00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:56,040
extraordinary for them they well I would

1013
00:50:59,810 --> 00:50:58,140
say in the Indian culture too if you go

1014
00:51:02,270 --> 00:50:59,820
back back I mean now we have to go back

1015
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:02,280
to the beginning of the you guys of the

1016
00:51:10,250 --> 00:51:06,330
cycles of time and in in those cycles of

1017
00:51:14,270 --> 00:51:10,260
time we start freshly where we are light

1018
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:14,280
we are we come from light and we're

1019
00:51:20,510 --> 00:51:17,570
newly formed on the earth we're not even

1020
00:51:23,870 --> 00:51:20,520
completely material yet and then as

1021
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:23,880
these ages unfold we become more and

1022
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:32,320
until here we are today you know or we

1023
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:34,400
could say more and more and more and

1024
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:37,520
more failed from our true nature

1025
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:42,640
you know we fell into Jew allottee so

1026
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:46,730
Egypt if you look at even their their

1027
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:49,040
natures their gods you know some of them

1028
00:51:54,730 --> 00:51:53,090
are animal headed right you know and so

1029
00:51:56,950 --> 00:51:54,740
what that what were they doing and even

1030
00:52:01,080 --> 00:51:56,960
in ancient India the same you know in

1031
00:52:07,710 --> 00:52:01,090
Tibet in all in shamanic cultures they

1032
00:52:10,780 --> 00:52:07,720
were amazed at the powers of nature and

1033
00:52:14,860 --> 00:52:10,790
they I would say they worshiped the

1034
00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:14,870
powers of nature and felt as human

1035
00:52:19,420 --> 00:52:17,060
beings that they were part of the

1036
00:52:23,190 --> 00:52:19,430
natural Rohit world which is something

1037
00:52:26,260 --> 00:52:23,200
that we have become so divorced from

1038
00:52:28,740 --> 00:52:26,270
today and Egypt went through a couple of

1039
00:52:31,210 --> 00:52:28,750
phases too as well when you look at the

1040
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:31,220
the way that they approach things in the

1041
00:52:37,270 --> 00:52:32,570
in the Old Kingdom

1042
00:52:40,180 --> 00:52:37,280
and and the Middle Kingdom the the the

1043
00:52:41,650 --> 00:52:40,190
duality went away and then came back and

1044
00:52:45,490 --> 00:52:41,660
that lasted for a couple of hundred

1045
00:52:48,790 --> 00:52:45,500
years and the way that they approached

1046
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:48,800
the feminine and masculine and came and

1047
00:52:53,410 --> 00:52:51,170
went a couple of different times all the

1048
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:53,420
way through and when he went to the New

1049
00:52:59,170 --> 00:52:56,810
Kingdom it seemed like they were pretty

1050
00:53:01,780 --> 00:52:59,180
solid with the feminine side of things

1051
00:53:04,630 --> 00:53:01,790
and they were okay with it but they had

1052
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:04,640
to learn those lessons too did India go

1053
00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:09,050
through those same phases yes well if

1054
00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:10,700
you look at the contract tradition which

1055
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:12,460
is the worship of the Divine Feminine

1056
00:53:17,850 --> 00:53:15,680
completely but I can't say it what

1057
00:53:21,550 --> 00:53:17,860
always went through the entire society

1058
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:21,560
you know wherever in any of these these

1059
00:53:32,830 --> 00:53:26,410
cultures there were I would say the most

1060
00:53:37,330 --> 00:53:32,840
secret sacred groups that really still

1061
00:53:40,150 --> 00:53:37,340
understood the ancient teachings and the

1062
00:53:42,850 --> 00:53:40,160
the power of the Divine Feminine because

1063
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:42,860
the Divine Feminine if you really go

1064
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:48,530
deep the Divine Feminine is light Shakti

1065
00:53:53,380 --> 00:53:51,290
Shakti is the light the light of

1066
00:53:55,570 --> 00:53:53,390
consciousness the light of love the

1067
00:54:00,040 --> 00:53:55,580
light of truth the light of integrity

1068
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:00,050
the light of virtue Shakti is the like

1069
00:54:09,820 --> 00:54:04,010
Shekinah the Hebrews is the eminent the

1070
00:54:12,940 --> 00:54:09,830
divine eminence and so though the

1071
00:54:14,860 --> 00:54:12,950
worship of the goddess I mean the

1072
00:54:18,070 --> 00:54:14,870
goddess herself is just symbolic

1073
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:18,080
representation of one's own actual

1074
00:54:23,050 --> 00:54:20,170
divine nature whether male or female

1075
00:54:25,090 --> 00:54:23,060
right and and we're gonna take a break

1076
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:25,100
right here because when we come back

1077
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:26,810
we're gonna pick up right where we're

1078
00:54:32,830 --> 00:54:30,770
leaving off the well you know what our

1079
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:32,840
guest tonight Sharon Rose I was gonna

1080
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:35,570
actually start the next segment right

1081
00:54:41,860 --> 00:54:40,490
now let's do we'll pick up where we left

1082
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:41,870
off right after this short break our

1083
00:54:46,510 --> 00:54:44,450
guest tonight Sharon Rose we are doing a

1084
00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:46,520
history lesson tonight absolutely

1085
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:49,550
ancient Egypt India all the way through

1086
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awakening of the Divine Feminine we'll

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welcome back fade to black I'm gonna

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now Sharon this is what I was leading

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into right at the break and I'm getting

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a weird echo by the way Sharon on my

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voice close the the phone closer to your

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ear I think it's bleeding into the other

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end of the phone but that's okay the the

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guy out there the masculine guy that's

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listening to this show right now is

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probably thinking this thought I'm a

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mask you know I'm the manland I don't

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need this feminine thing this family you

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know I they don't understand what we are

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talking about so let's let's start here

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when we are talking about feminine and

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masculine we are not talking about

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giving up your masculine side of your

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own self we're talking about the world

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and cultures in general so help us out

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what is the definition of the masculine

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and the feminine we have let's start by

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my acknowledging my beloved masculine

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counterpart Jay Wagner right we're

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embodied differently we have different

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structure the if you really think about

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this think about the Father and think

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about the mother I feel like all those

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are getting those lines are getting

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blurred these days and it's beautiful

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that you know women that were were

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taking on some of the aspects of the

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other but at the same time right now I

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feel like there it is a longing for the

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mother a longing for that place of where

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you feel like you're just being held and

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cared for and seen and appreciated and

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loved that that has always been the role

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of the traditional role of the woman and

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you know yeah and and going back to what

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what the ancients understood about that

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and and balancing that in their cultures

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we got away from that what is it that

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the the all of those ancient cultures

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understood about having that balance the

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well you would go back to go back to the

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hunter-gatherers where the men were out

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hunting and the women were gathering the

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women were caring for the children

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I mean a woman's body is an incredible

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alchemical vessel it's through her body

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that that burnt that life comes forth

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and that was appreciated women in the

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ancient traditions were the mediators

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they were the initiators into the sexual

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mysteries they were healers they helped

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with the passages between you know life

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and death and and birth and and the men

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really kind of supported that you know

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the men it's like in in South I mean

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there were of course men who were

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spiritually oriented always so I just

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feel that right now there is a

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tremendous amount of confusion over the

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just gender in in general over the last

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40 years

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own experience and what I have seen the

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way that I remember growing up versus

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today we have gone completely haywire

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and is it a breakdown of the family unit

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the the the masculine and the feminine

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and and I don't want to talk about hard

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core roles here but what I mean is the

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the our last few generations have lost

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sight of that and we came off the rails

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very very very quickly and those morals

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and and and things are not taught

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anymore is that is that what is going on

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that is definitely what's going on if

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you look at the ancient teachings from

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many many traditions you see that they

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speak about this time as the time of the

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world turned upside down where the lie

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becomes the truth and at the same time

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it's it's it's a great alchemical

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transmutation where it's like all the

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darkness is coming up to be liberated we

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hope that's what they say in this time

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of great purification but we are so

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caught I mean the real mechanism of what

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of the disturbances and the polarity and

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the divisive nosov course is media the

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media has been able to so let's go back

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so when I was writing the path of the

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priestess I are used to phrase called

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the psychic energetic emotional

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landscape of society and in the ancient

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traditions it was the woman's role to

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keep that in balance and right now it

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feels like that is so out of balance

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women that will go into

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feminist movement here you know we

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burned our bras we rebelled against the

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consumerism we rebelled against you know

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being stuck in the home having children

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and we rebelled against all that but I

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can't honestly a lot of women my age who

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fell for it went into the corporate

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world who emulated men who wanted to be

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men are very lonely and unhappy right

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now and is the same and I want to stay

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on this too as well but is the same

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breakdown going on in in some of the

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countries around the world that have an

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old culture we're only 200 years old

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here we don't know what we're doing we

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don't have a culture but is the same

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breakdown happening in India or across

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Europe where some of these cultures go

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back one two thousand years of course

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it's happening everywhere it's the

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nature of the times we live in is it

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because they wanted to follow what we

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were doing here in the United States

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with the feminist movement of the 60s

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and 70s oh that that could be part of it

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01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:33,410
I think it's just you know but I would

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say it's consumerism

1286
01:06:44,110 --> 01:06:38,480
I think the materialism the desire for

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and the attachment to things has just

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taken over the world

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and I think that has to do with you know

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so my son went to a Waldorf School so

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they weren't allowed to watch TV really

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until they were in sixth grade because

1293
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they didn't want to have an effect on

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their innate creativity interests yeah

1295
01:07:12,430 --> 01:07:09,590
so we are being imprinted everything we

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01:07:15,340 --> 01:07:12,440
watch the media is creating this

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phantasm and taking us away completely

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01:07:23,980 --> 01:07:18,470
from our true nature whether male female

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or other it's taking us into the realms

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of desire and anger and attachment and

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01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:28,790
frustration

1302
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:33,890
and just you see it going on it's it's

1303
01:07:39,070 --> 01:07:35,690
everywhere look what's going on in

1304
01:07:41,020 --> 01:07:39,080
Europe with with women that's something

1305
01:07:47,010 --> 01:07:41,030
about the feminist movement that really

1306
01:07:50,580 --> 01:07:47,020
is concerns me because we fought for

1307
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:50,590
equality and a level of freedom

1308
01:07:59,590 --> 01:07:54,410
economically and in our lives and right

1309
01:08:03,610 --> 01:07:59,600
now I talked to women in Germany who are

1310
01:08:08,190 --> 01:08:03,620
afraid to go out on the street a woman

1311
01:08:13,510 --> 01:08:08,200
that works with refugee women who are

1312
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:13,520
terrified terrified of what well they're

1313
01:08:19,180 --> 01:08:15,730
terrified they've been told that if they

1314
01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:19,190
she this is a psychiatrist's they've

1315
01:08:25,450 --> 01:08:22,490
been told that if they integrate into

1316
01:08:29,710 --> 01:08:25,460
the culture that they will be sent home

1317
01:08:33,940 --> 01:08:29,720
and punished are you talking about the

1318
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:33,950
refugees yeah my heart goes for them you

1319
01:08:39,820 --> 01:08:36,170
know I've seen it in India I've seen it

1320
01:08:44,559 --> 01:08:39,830
all over at the same time there should

1321
01:08:51,519 --> 01:08:44,569
be a way we need to go beyond all of

1322
01:08:55,090 --> 01:08:51,529
this my culture your culture you know we

1323
01:08:58,829 --> 01:08:55,100
have to go beyond the stuckness we're in

1324
01:09:02,190 --> 01:08:58,839
anger were in the hatred we're in the he

1325
01:09:06,099 --> 01:09:02,200
to a place where there is a balance

1326
01:09:10,390 --> 01:09:06,109
again we really see each other beyond

1327
01:09:12,730 --> 01:09:10,400
the veil beyond all of the garbage I

1328
01:09:15,010 --> 01:09:12,740
call it that we are peeing

1329
01:09:19,450 --> 01:09:15,020
you know that's being fed to us that

1330
01:09:24,570 --> 01:09:19,460
divides us that you know I would say

1331
01:09:28,980 --> 01:09:24,580
honestly I feel that men in the West

1332
01:09:36,519 --> 01:09:28,990
have become they've really changed

1333
01:09:39,610 --> 01:09:36,529
they're much more grateful and see women

1334
01:09:42,329 --> 01:09:39,620
they're polite I see a lot more of that

1335
01:09:45,849 --> 01:09:42,339
in the West than I did in India

1336
01:09:50,110 --> 01:09:45,859
or I worked a lot with Middle Eastern

1337
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:50,120
men when I was doing my Egyptian work

1338
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:52,730
and I mean they were artists so it's a

1339
01:10:01,000 --> 01:09:56,930
little different but in general you know

1340
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:01,010
those old patriarchal values and our art

1341
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:04,489
are still going on it's like well what

1342
01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:06,890
can we do how do we solve this conundrum

1343
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:11,590
of you know two very very different

1344
01:10:19,630 --> 01:10:16,570
cultures you know coming together and

1345
01:10:22,210 --> 01:10:19,640
just not being able to find the common

1346
01:10:26,290 --> 01:10:22,220
ground let me ask you this

1347
01:10:28,540 --> 01:10:26,300
when we talk about the feminine and and

1348
01:10:31,270 --> 01:10:28,550
and certainly with with the governments

1349
01:10:34,390 --> 01:10:31,280
in the way that ancient Egypt and and an

1350
01:10:37,570 --> 01:10:34,400
Indian these learning leaders and and

1351
01:10:40,330 --> 01:10:37,580
goddesses and gods that was one thing

1352
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:40,340
today where we have somebody like you

1353
01:10:47,470 --> 01:10:44,090
know Merkel who is a woman running

1354
01:10:49,810 --> 01:10:47,480
Germany is she representing the Divine

1355
01:10:52,510 --> 01:10:49,820
Feminine or Theresa May or some of these

1356
01:10:55,990 --> 01:10:52,520
other leaders around the world or are

1357
01:10:58,750 --> 01:10:56,000
they are they masculine politician right

1358
01:11:01,390 --> 01:10:58,760
are they masculine are they you know

1359
01:11:04,300 --> 01:11:01,400
yeah they're very masculine you ever see

1360
01:11:07,090 --> 01:11:04,310
them wearing a dress right very rare

1361
01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:07,100
they feel like that when I wrote my book

1362
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:09,710
it was that was one of the points I was

1363
01:11:15,729 --> 01:11:12,410
trying to make it was like in the modern

1364
01:11:19,210 --> 01:11:15,739
world in this society and now it's

1365
01:11:22,090 --> 01:11:19,220
happening all over the place it's like

1366
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:22,100
women began to emulate men and

1367
01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:25,610
forgetting their inclusive compassion

1368
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:30,470
but truly compassionate qualities the

1369
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:32,510
nurturing side yeah you're absolutely

1370
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:36,890
right and the when you look at nature

1371
01:11:42,130 --> 01:11:39,530
forget about humans you look at nature

1372
01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:42,140
and you've got a couple of birds in a

1373
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:47,360
nest right and and and and the mom is

1374
01:11:52,070 --> 01:11:51,050
making sure that those little babies are

1375
01:11:54,110 --> 01:11:52,080
fed and the

1376
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:54,120
learn to fly and they're gonna go out

1377
01:11:58,850 --> 01:11:56,400
and figure out the world because you

1378
01:11:59,960 --> 01:11:58,860
know and dad is bringing the food into

1379
01:12:02,750 --> 01:11:59,970
the net you know what I mean and

1380
01:12:06,710 --> 01:12:02,760
building and there's a there's a basic

1381
01:12:08,810 --> 01:12:06,720
thing that goes on there and when we

1382
01:12:10,820 --> 01:12:08,820
look at these other world leaders and I

1383
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:10,830
can I'm bringing up merkel specifically

1384
01:12:17,090 --> 01:12:14,250
or tourism where the men out there are

1385
01:12:19,460 --> 01:12:17,100
going to say see women are representing

1386
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:19,470
the women and they have an equal shot

1387
01:12:25,580 --> 01:12:22,410
but it's not really the case is it they

1388
01:12:28,700 --> 01:12:25,590
are masculine you know in a woman's body

1389
01:12:32,140 --> 01:12:28,710
and am i wrong to look at things that

1390
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:32,150
way and that's what i think is going on

1391
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:37,970
i I would agree with you as I said women

1392
01:12:51,530 --> 01:12:48,680
are they're going into what was a man's

1393
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:51,540
world it wasn't always a man's world you

1394
01:12:56,330 --> 01:12:54,090
know in in shamanic societies and

1395
01:12:58,850 --> 01:12:56,340
ancient societies it wasn't women

1396
01:13:01,790 --> 01:12:58,860
actually were the mediators they were

1397
01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:01,800
there to assist to help to bring some

1398
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:03,920
kind of harmony and balance into the

1399
01:13:13,010 --> 01:13:06,960
situation now there's no women have

1400
01:13:14,330 --> 01:13:13,020
become war mongers oh that is so you

1401
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:14,340
know although they'll talk about Amazon

1402
01:13:19,460 --> 01:13:17,250
women and all this but I don't think

1403
01:13:23,330 --> 01:13:19,470
women who bring children into the world

1404
01:13:25,820 --> 01:13:23,340
I don't think that war is in their true

1405
01:13:28,060 --> 01:13:25,830
nature unless they're defend in their in

1406
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:28,070
a situation where they have to defend

1407
01:13:36,470 --> 01:13:32,330
their children or their family right

1408
01:13:40,580 --> 01:13:36,480
yeah or their home the where does this

1409
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:40,590
we're not born that way where does this

1410
01:13:44,570 --> 01:13:41,280
start

1411
01:13:46,850 --> 01:13:44,580
I had read today leading up to the show

1412
01:13:52,180 --> 01:13:46,860
I wanted to share this with you this is

1413
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:52,190
a really trippy fact this is a fact that

1414
01:14:00,920 --> 01:13:57,290
children are not understanding of

1415
01:14:03,260 --> 01:14:00,930
competition and war until the age of

1416
01:14:05,570 --> 01:14:03,270
four they're not God they don't even

1417
01:14:08,450 --> 01:14:05,580
understand don't even relate to it

1418
01:14:10,790 --> 01:14:08,460
and then something happens after the but

1419
01:14:12,170 --> 01:14:10,800
up until then even if you try to teach

1420
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:12,180
it to them they don't understand that

1421
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:13,890
they don't get it it's a pretty

1422
01:14:18,340 --> 01:14:15,930
fascinating thing so apparently

1423
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:18,350
somewhere around the age of four or five

1424
01:14:26,450 --> 01:14:23,370
kindergarten things start to go things

1425
01:14:30,620 --> 01:14:26,460
start to go wrong don't they well they

1426
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:30,630
start becoming socialized all right

1427
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:34,560
prior to that I mean they start you

1428
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:36,690
start from in some way socialized from

1429
01:14:42,740 --> 01:14:39,510
the time you're you're born but at that

1430
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:42,750
I would say around that time you your

1431
01:14:48,860 --> 01:14:46,650
cognition comes to the to where you can

1432
01:14:51,460 --> 01:14:48,870
you know take in all this information I

1433
01:14:53,900 --> 01:14:51,470
don't know it these days with you know

1434
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:53,910
three-year-olds using iPhones and

1435
01:15:02,140 --> 01:14:56,730
computers they're getting directly

1436
01:15:08,180 --> 01:15:02,150
zapped with all this stuff yeah 100%

1437
01:15:11,810 --> 01:15:08,190
yeah and now let's let's talk a little

1438
01:15:15,440 --> 01:15:11,820
bit about what's going on today it seems

1439
01:15:18,380 --> 01:15:15,450
to me that not only you brought up fake

1440
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:18,390
news but it seems that we have gone

1441
01:15:23,060 --> 01:15:21,210
completely off the rails on every aspect

1442
01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:23,070
of society doesn't matter if it's

1443
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:25,350
reality television if it's sports if

1444
01:15:34,190 --> 01:15:29,010
it's government if it's war jobs the

1445
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:34,200
weather news everything now is confusing

1446
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:36,930
and off of the rails like out of control

1447
01:15:40,730 --> 01:15:39,330
out completely out of control and I

1448
01:15:44,060 --> 01:15:40,740
don't know how to get the cars back on

1449
01:15:45,710 --> 01:15:44,070
the road what what is what is going on

1450
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:45,720
with the world and that this isn't a

1451
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:49,110
general statement it's like everything

1452
01:15:55,580 --> 01:15:53,130
has come unraveled and unglued I think

1453
01:16:00,490 --> 01:15:55,590
this is partly the result of you know

1454
01:16:07,330 --> 01:16:00,500
the military-industrial complex and the

1455
01:16:08,590 --> 01:16:07,340
the cult of consumerism the you know I

1456
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:08,600
just

1457
01:16:17,570 --> 01:16:13,610
attachment will go we can go from a very

1458
01:16:18,990 --> 01:16:17,580
spiritual perspective where we could say

1459
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:19,000
we're caught up in

1460
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:20,650
from the Tibetan tradition what would

1461
01:16:28,530 --> 01:16:24,610
call the three poisons anger attachment

1462
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:28,540
and ignorance and ignorance does not

1463
01:16:36,180 --> 01:16:32,880
mean you know like you're stupid

1464
01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:36,190
ignorance means that you're so caught in

1465
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:41,890
the phantasm around you you're so caught

1466
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:47,290
in the fear that's being projected out

1467
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:49,930
in the world right now the media that

1468
01:16:59,460 --> 01:16:54,730
you you can't connect with your

1469
01:17:01,680 --> 01:16:59,470
essential light your soul that goes way

1470
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:01,690
beyond that's painfully would we can

1471
01:17:06,930 --> 01:17:03,490
start there we can talk about the fact

1472
01:17:09,060 --> 01:17:06,940
that that most people many people and

1473
01:17:12,090 --> 01:17:09,070
this is the work I'm doing now to bring

1474
01:17:14,460 --> 01:17:12,100
these teachings forth many people think

1475
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:14,470
that we're just this material physical

1476
01:17:19,950 --> 01:17:17,250
body there's no energy body there's no

1477
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:19,960
emotional body there's no mental body

1478
01:17:27,300 --> 01:17:24,010
they have nothing to do with it and it's

1479
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:27,310
just this life this only life and you

1480
01:17:32,850 --> 01:17:30,250
have to get everything you can you know

1481
01:17:35,150 --> 01:17:32,860
cumulate as much as possible and you

1482
01:17:37,250 --> 01:17:35,160
know a successful life is to be

1483
01:17:42,540 --> 01:17:37,260
extraordinary to be a billionaire like

1484
01:17:45,150 --> 01:17:42,550
Bill Gates and then to learn you know

1485
01:17:47,810 --> 01:17:45,160
become transhuman and you know part

1486
01:17:52,110 --> 01:17:47,820
robot and find a way to live forever

1487
01:17:56,670 --> 01:17:52,120
downloading your your consciousness into

1488
01:17:59,520 --> 01:17:56,680
a computer and consumerism that model

1489
01:18:02,730 --> 01:17:59,530
that engine which started a couple of

1490
01:18:05,430 --> 01:18:02,740
hundred years ago certainly since 1900

1491
01:18:07,050 --> 01:18:05,440
in the Industrial Revolution and and the

1492
01:18:08,370 --> 01:18:07,060
way that you know electricity and

1493
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:08,380
everything else that has happened since

1494
01:18:14,610 --> 01:18:11,650
then the model of consumerism you know

1495
01:18:18,830 --> 01:18:14,620
to build more you make more money to buy

1496
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:18,840
more to borrow more to spend more that

1497
01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:23,170
model is what they wanted it's what they

1498
01:18:32,580 --> 01:18:27,670
and and today that model is is proving

1499
01:18:34,740 --> 01:18:32,590
to the only answer to tis to explode

1500
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:34,750
and implode onto itself it can't

1501
01:18:41,490 --> 01:18:37,330
continue but that's the model that they

1502
01:18:43,620 --> 01:18:41,500
wanted and and today the the unraveling

1503
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:43,630
of society is proving that maybe we've

1504
01:18:49,860 --> 01:18:46,930
got this just a little bit wrong now

1505
01:18:52,860 --> 01:18:49,870
the vast majority is Sharon and I'm

1506
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:52,870
talking about ninety nine percent of the

1507
01:18:58,650 --> 01:18:55,570
United States would not even want to

1508
01:19:01,050 --> 01:18:58,660
listen to you and I they won't they are

1509
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:01,060
so ingrained it's just like North Korea

1510
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:02,560
you know you've taught been taught

1511
01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:05,290
editor things since birth right that's

1512
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:08,260
all you understand and they would choose

1513
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:10,810
not to listen to us to continue on the

1514
01:19:15,470 --> 01:19:12,850
treadmill and that's the problem how do

1515
01:19:18,930 --> 01:19:15,480
we fix that

1516
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:18,940
well I would ask those people are you

1517
01:19:28,980 --> 01:19:23,770
happy do you enjoy your life most of

1518
01:19:32,190 --> 01:19:28,990
these this oh so let's let's go here you

1519
01:19:34,260 --> 01:19:32,200
know this election really divided the

1520
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:34,270
country has divided the country

1521
01:19:41,820 --> 01:19:38,650
I follow the you know Buddhist and

1522
01:19:44,370 --> 01:19:41,830
Taoist path of balance so if you look at

1523
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:44,380
the yin-yang symbol you know follow the

1524
01:19:54,210 --> 01:19:48,370
center path that's not the black or the

1525
01:19:58,770 --> 01:19:54,220
white but what's in between and people

1526
01:20:04,170 --> 01:19:58,780
have become so divided that even those

1527
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:04,180
of us there are many that say they're

1528
01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:08,410
following spiritual paths yet will not

1529
01:20:19,250 --> 01:20:15,070
listen will not open their minds to the

1530
01:20:23,700 --> 01:20:19,260
other side they are caught in such anger

1531
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:23,710
and such what I would call suffering you

1532
01:20:29,460 --> 01:20:26,490
know there is a concept in the Dublin

1533
01:20:31,950 --> 01:20:29,470
shamanic tradition of Tibet put forth by

1534
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:31,960
my teacher Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche has

1535
01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:35,530
Petain body the pain speech and the pain

1536
01:20:46,050 --> 01:20:42,510
mind and I feel like our whole society

1537
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:46,060
there clearly there are those of us who

1538
01:20:54,180 --> 01:20:49,930
our spiritual practitioners who are

1539
01:20:57,540 --> 01:20:54,190
actually on a path but in general

1540
01:21:00,060 --> 01:20:57,550
society is so caught in suffering and

1541
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:00,070
paints that they're actually addicted to

1542
01:21:08,070 --> 01:21:03,370
it they're addicted to the drama they're

1543
01:21:10,710 --> 01:21:08,080
addicted to the emotional stuff that

1544
01:21:13,670 --> 01:21:10,720
they can't even see beyond it so how do

1545
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:13,680
we get beyond it we have to come back

1546
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:16,810
come back to our true nature well it's a

1547
01:21:22,710 --> 01:21:18,970
hard lesson for everybody to learn isn't

1548
01:21:24,420 --> 01:21:22,720
it you know you get to you're taught you

1549
01:21:25,950 --> 01:21:24,430
know that you have to do this you have

1550
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:25,960
to do you have to consume consume

1551
01:21:30,810 --> 01:21:28,570
consume you will be happy after you get

1552
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:30,820
the four car garage and the four cars in

1553
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:33,730
the driveway and that's that will be the

1554
01:21:37,170 --> 01:21:35,410
completion of what you get to the age of

1555
01:21:39,870 --> 01:21:37,180
60 you look around you've got the house

1556
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:39,880
you've got the cars and you say to

1557
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:42,880
yourself I wasted my entire life because

1558
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:46,330
right now I'm not happy this was not

1559
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:48,250
what I thought life was supposed to be

1560
01:21:53,700 --> 01:21:50,770
but it's a life wasted right that's

1561
01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:53,710
exactly what goes on you know you can't

1562
01:22:02,010 --> 01:21:57,280
you're gonna die and you can't take

1563
01:22:04,260 --> 01:22:02,020
these things with you you can't take

1564
01:22:06,540 --> 01:22:04,270
when I've been talking to the Taoist

1565
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:06,550
masters because I'm doing this film

1566
01:22:14,340 --> 01:22:09,520
called quantum Chi the Taoist art of

1567
01:22:20,610 --> 01:22:14,350
nurturing life and they are the happiest

1568
01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:20,620
I've taken teachings and you know done

1569
01:22:24,410 --> 01:22:22,480
practices for many different traditions

1570
01:22:28,500 --> 01:22:24,420
and these are the happiest people

1571
01:22:30,380 --> 01:22:28,510
they're very embodied that's the other

1572
01:22:34,020 --> 01:22:30,390
thing that's going on now is that we're

1573
01:22:37,170 --> 01:22:34,030
disembodied where where we spend more

1574
01:22:41,250 --> 01:22:37,180
time looking into a computer screen then

1575
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:41,260
we do out you know in nature walking you

1576
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:43,330
know our Chi is being drained our life

1577
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:46,090
energy our vital energy it's just being

1578
01:22:55,170 --> 01:22:51,810
drained honestly I have to tell you that

1579
01:23:00,060 --> 01:22:55,180
with everything going on it makes one

1580
01:23:02,690 --> 01:23:00,070
wonder if there is you know if if there

1581
01:23:05,820 --> 01:23:02,700
it is something going on like a

1582
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:05,830
terraforming of the earth by beings that

1583
01:23:08,610 --> 01:23:08,170
really do not have our best interests at

1584
01:23:11,790 --> 01:23:08,620
heart

1585
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:11,800
yeah yeah and the examples of it are

1586
01:23:17,700 --> 01:23:14,770
everywhere I stumbled into it I wasn't

1587
01:23:21,270 --> 01:23:17,710
taught this right I stumbled into

1588
01:23:24,930 --> 01:23:21,280
awareness where I found that I was

1589
01:23:27,510 --> 01:23:24,940
physically changed by certain things in

1590
01:23:30,300 --> 01:23:27,520
a technological society and when I

1591
01:23:33,980 --> 01:23:30,310
turned off those certain things I

1592
01:23:37,020 --> 01:23:33,990
physically changed I felt better right

1593
01:23:39,930 --> 01:23:37,030
and it is an amazing thing now I

1594
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:39,940
stumbled on to it I I got lucky

1595
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:42,610
but as soon as I took out those negative

1596
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:45,490
elements of my life I physically changed

1597
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:49,810
I physically I I am Telling You I felt

1598
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:52,570
better and when I go and I dabble into

1599
01:23:58,650 --> 01:23:56,650
the negativity I get sick I change yeah

1600
01:24:01,320 --> 01:23:58,660
that's that's right

1601
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:01,330
how can you upward we're in a society

1602
01:24:09,420 --> 01:24:06,130
where there there are not although

1603
01:24:12,390 --> 01:24:09,430
there's a whole group that is you know

1604
01:24:15,570 --> 01:24:12,400
it's shifting in some ways with you know

1605
01:24:17,310 --> 01:24:15,580
energy medicine and acupuncture and all

1606
01:24:19,140 --> 01:24:17,320
these alternatives but we're in a

1607
01:24:21,510 --> 01:24:19,150
society where you're told oh I have ache

1608
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:21,520
okay take a pill yes you don't have to

1609
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:24,130
deal with it you know we think that we

1610
01:24:30,900 --> 01:24:26,290
can take a pill we don't even realize

1611
01:24:34,050 --> 01:24:30,910
that our thoughts have an effect on our

1612
01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:34,060
emotions which have an effect on our

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physical body the Taoist will tell you

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the that each organ like the liver holds

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anger and there are all these techniques

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that you transform that into kindness

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there's such incredible knowledge that

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lift the veil and start looking start

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feeling and get into your body you have

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to do just that let's talk more about

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that after the break but it is a

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transformation that I did and I found it

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by accident I backed my car over it

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right

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didn't see it and and I am different

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today we'll talk more about it after the

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break our guest tonight

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Sharon Rose this is fade to black stay

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[Music]

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01:29:39,580 --> 01:29:37,490
welcome back fade to black our guest

1722
01:29:42,250 --> 01:29:39,590
tonight Sharon Rose I'm your host Jimmy

1723
01:29:44,050 --> 01:29:42,260
church follow me on twitter @ JT radio

1724
01:29:49,270 --> 01:29:44,060
email is Jimmy at Jimmy Church radio

1725
01:29:52,960 --> 01:29:49,280
calm and now check this out Sharon

1726
01:29:58,330 --> 01:29:52,970
what's your Twitter I don't have a

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Twitter okay that's a great answer right

1728
01:30:04,270 --> 01:30:00,500
there now check this out internal

1729
01:30:07,390 --> 01:30:04,280
alchemy let me tell you how I found

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myself and you're gonna laugh and then

1731
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we're gonna we're gonna take your view

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of this because somebody just tweeted

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Kim said she said she wants to hear

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about Jimmy's transformation well this

1735
01:30:22,930 --> 01:30:19,880
is like I said I did it by accident but

1736
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:22,940
this is what I do today I found out that

1737
01:30:36,190 --> 01:30:32,810
negativity in my life is is non-exec

1738
01:30:39,250 --> 01:30:36,200
that even breathes negativity done no

1739
01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:39,260
phone calls no email your I eliminate it

1740
01:30:45,670 --> 01:30:43,310
and and I am clean I am pure any

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01:30:47,950 --> 01:30:45,680
negative email any negative reference

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any negative conversation in person face

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01:30:55,390 --> 01:30:51,920
to face if you hint on that I'm do are

1744
01:30:58,180 --> 01:30:55,400
done you're a canceled check right and I

1745
01:31:01,300 --> 01:30:58,190
did it by accident and I found that

1746
01:31:04,540 --> 01:31:01,310
getting negativity out of my life in any

1747
01:31:06,850 --> 01:31:04,550
element is and of course finding your

1748
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bliss and everything else that that that

1749
01:31:13,180 --> 01:31:09,170
certainly helps but this internal

1750
01:31:16,510 --> 01:31:13,190
alchemy I found out by myself it was a

1751
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:16,520
crazy transformation and because of that

1752
01:31:23,320 --> 01:31:20,090
when people speak of it like yourself I

1753
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:23,330
get it I listen and I understand it and

1754
01:31:30,910 --> 01:31:28,010
I practice it isn't that inter all on my

1755
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:30,920
own and now I listen I found out the

1756
01:31:43,420 --> 01:31:37,090
hard way so how did you clear yourself

1757
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:43,430
from the I mean we are being conditioned

1758
01:31:50,010 --> 01:31:46,690
to feel negativity too

1759
01:31:52,770 --> 01:31:50,020
express negativity so how did you clear

1760
01:31:54,959 --> 01:31:52,780
yourself of that right and and and so

1761
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:54,969
and I practice it too as well in that

1762
01:31:57,750 --> 01:31:57,250
I'm not negative at all I don't respond

1763
01:32:01,320 --> 01:31:57,760
to it

1764
01:32:04,470 --> 01:32:01,330
I don't engage in it I don't discuss it

1765
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:04,480
but this is let me tell you the the part

1766
01:32:11,790 --> 01:32:07,690
of the clearing about five years ago

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Rita and I left right for five days we

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had business to do and while we were

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gone those five days I didn't do

1770
01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:21,760
mainstream news I didn't do the Internet

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01:32:28,709 --> 01:32:23,920
I didn't look at my cell phone

1772
01:32:32,700 --> 01:32:28,719
we were in a situation where we didn't

1773
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have a television set in our hotel room

1774
01:32:38,459 --> 01:32:35,890
believe it or not right so totally

1775
01:32:43,459 --> 01:32:38,469
disengaged and and over those four or

1776
01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:43,469
five days the happiness level went up

1777
01:32:50,970 --> 01:32:47,530
you know exponentially we got back to

1778
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civilization and turned on TVs and

1779
01:32:56,070 --> 01:32:53,739
internet and geared up for the show and

1780
01:32:59,100 --> 01:32:56,080
reading the news and everything and that

1781
01:33:02,430 --> 01:32:59,110
happiness level went right back down and

1782
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it was like wait a minute here look what

1783
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happened

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it is literally programmed into us our

1785
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entire life everything around you the

1786
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car radio the news the the interactions

1787
01:33:18,990 --> 01:33:16,870
with people was all negative it was

1788
01:33:20,970 --> 01:33:19,000
amazing I could look around and hear

1789
01:33:23,550 --> 01:33:20,980
what people are saying and and I'm

1790
01:33:26,990 --> 01:33:23,560
talking about face-to-face interactions

1791
01:33:29,580 --> 01:33:27,000
it was all negative it was a crazy

1792
01:33:32,220 --> 01:33:29,590
awakening it was an awareness and that's

1793
01:33:34,650 --> 01:33:32,230
where the cleansing started you know and

1794
01:33:36,570 --> 01:33:34,660
it's a painful process to go through but

1795
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:36,580
once you recognize it and you see that

1796
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:38,770
that's what's making you sick that's

1797
01:33:43,410 --> 01:33:41,170
what's making you fight with your your

1798
01:33:45,810 --> 01:33:43,420
children or your wife or your parents or

1799
01:33:47,790 --> 01:33:45,820
your co-workers and and they are doing

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01:33:50,580 --> 01:33:47,800
the same thing back to you once you

1801
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recognize it then you can stop doing it

1802
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:53,610
but it it's an amazing thing it was

1803
01:34:01,150 --> 01:33:55,690
amazing

1804
01:34:05,590 --> 01:34:01,160
yes yes it truly is it really is that in

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the in many of the traditions what the

1806
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:08,690
way that this is is shifted is that

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01:34:11,860 --> 01:34:10,250
you're actually introduced by the

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teacher to what's called the nature of

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01:34:23,430 --> 01:34:18,080
your mind the clear pure it's it's like

1810
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:23,440
a mirror and once you're given that

1811
01:34:31,300 --> 01:34:27,050
initiation that becomes like a beacon of

1812
01:34:35,070 --> 01:34:31,310
light within you from that you hold on

1813
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:35,080
to that clarity that stillness within

1814
01:34:45,510 --> 01:34:42,050
and and then that becomes more and more

1815
01:34:48,790 --> 01:34:45,520
and more a part of your life where the

1816
01:34:56,650 --> 01:34:48,800
the outside distractions are not

1817
01:35:00,160 --> 01:34:56,660
important the inner you you turn there's

1818
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:00,170
a text that I was told about called the

1819
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:04,010
can't Tong Chi and it says turn the

1820
01:35:11,140 --> 01:35:08,690
light of consciousness or out so instead

1821
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:11,150
of focusing on all that outer you're

1822
01:35:17,850 --> 01:35:14,090
focusing on the inner of distilling the

1823
01:35:21,940 --> 01:35:17,860
inner of holding to your inner light

1824
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:21,950
that goodness that love that exists

1825
01:35:28,750 --> 01:35:23,690
within the heart of every human being

1826
01:35:30,820 --> 01:35:28,760
and that becomes you know the beacon by

1827
01:35:33,610 --> 01:35:30,830
what she lived and by which you look at

1828
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:33,620
everything else you begin to really see

1829
01:35:40,710 --> 01:35:37,370
I mean I live in nature I live way up in

1830
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:40,720
the mountains I live where all the

1831
01:35:46,030 --> 01:35:43,250
electric and all that is buried

1832
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:46,040
underground where the Wi-Fi is very

1833
01:35:52,990 --> 01:35:49,730
little and it is a different reality and

1834
01:35:56,890 --> 01:35:53,000
when I come out of that what I see

1835
01:35:59,830 --> 01:35:56,900
around me is so much suffering and it's

1836
01:36:05,770 --> 01:35:59,840
needless it's needless it doesn't have

1837
01:36:08,939 --> 01:36:05,780
to be we have been given this precious

1838
01:36:15,660 --> 01:36:13,140
and we don't have to I mean the Buddha

1839
01:36:18,839 --> 01:36:15,670
would you know all life is suffering but

1840
01:36:20,699 --> 01:36:18,849
there is there's something beyond the

1841
01:36:24,810 --> 01:36:20,709
suffering but we have to have the

1842
01:36:26,910 --> 01:36:24,820
courage to turn off the TV doesn't have

1843
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:26,920
to have the courage or at least turn off

1844
01:36:31,469 --> 01:36:29,530
you know there are positive so you know

1845
01:36:33,270 --> 01:36:31,479
why is it here's a question why are

1846
01:36:35,189 --> 01:36:33,280
there so many if you look at some of

1847
01:36:39,540 --> 01:36:35,199
these like Netflix and stuff it's like

1848
01:36:44,459 --> 01:36:39,550
so much a session with horror movies and

1849
01:36:48,930 --> 01:36:44,469
war movies and torture movies and I mean

1850
01:36:51,719 --> 01:36:48,940
where is all the beauty where is it why

1851
01:36:55,350 --> 01:36:51,729
aren't we experiencing that why aren't

1852
01:36:58,799 --> 01:36:55,360
they bringing that for it and it's there

1853
01:37:01,199 --> 01:36:58,809
I mean you can find it if you go and

1854
01:37:05,489 --> 01:37:01,209
search it but it's certainly not what

1855
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:05,499
the consumers want you know and we are a

1856
01:37:11,489 --> 01:37:09,130
money driven society and you have this

1857
01:37:14,879 --> 01:37:11,499
is what's crazy churn you know that

1858
01:37:18,299 --> 01:37:14,889
there are boardrooms right now in

1859
01:37:20,279 --> 01:37:18,309
Hollywood where there are 10 20 vice

1860
01:37:23,580 --> 01:37:20,289
presidents of production sitting around

1861
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:23,590
a table going okay what do what are you

1862
01:37:27,209 --> 01:37:25,449
guys doing you know and it's it's

1863
01:37:30,930 --> 01:37:27,219
another horror film it's another you

1864
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:30,940
know it's this it's it's how many movies

1865
01:37:37,410 --> 01:37:34,530
about some crazy psychotic guy has a

1866
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:37,420
prison with eight people in it they have

1867
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:39,010
to kill each other to get out in one

1868
01:37:46,649 --> 01:37:43,449
survives what that you know and they are

1869
01:37:48,509 --> 01:37:46,659
going this is my next movie and they

1870
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:48,519
know that they're gonna make money on it

1871
01:37:53,549 --> 01:37:51,090
so that's what gets me these crazy

1872
01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:53,559
decisions are being made every single

1873
01:37:58,739 --> 01:37:55,570
day and that's what's being fed to the

1874
01:38:01,560 --> 01:37:58,749
consumers and and it's a catch-22 cycle

1875
01:38:05,339 --> 01:38:01,570
it's a money machine that goes on and on

1876
01:38:08,339 --> 01:38:05,349
and on you're a filmmaker you know what

1877
01:38:10,890 --> 01:38:08,349
it takes to make a good film that is

1878
01:38:13,649 --> 01:38:10,900
going to enlighten people you know what

1879
01:38:18,220 --> 01:38:13,659
the battle is if you took one of your

1880
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:18,230
films to Sony what would be the answer

1881
01:38:28,950 --> 01:38:24,690
they think I'm a wacko

1882
01:38:33,060 --> 01:38:28,960
exactly you know it's realizable you can

1883
01:38:35,490 --> 01:38:33,070
heal yourself rusty what you don't need

1884
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:35,500
Western medicine there are ways there

1885
01:38:44,660 --> 01:38:38,890
are mechanisms by which you know you can

1886
01:38:49,190 --> 01:38:44,670
actually transmute disease in your body

1887
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:49,200
what but that won't make us any money

1888
01:38:55,230 --> 01:38:51,370
self-healing how are we gonna make money

1889
01:38:57,780 --> 01:38:55,240
off of self-healing and and you know and

1890
01:39:01,230 --> 01:38:57,790
when we when let's start with

1891
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:01,240
self-healing like I always ask this from

1892
01:39:05,670 --> 01:39:03,970
a guest and I asked for definitions for

1893
01:39:11,310 --> 01:39:05,680
the audience when we're talking about

1894
01:39:15,300 --> 01:39:11,320
self-healing what is your definition so

1895
01:39:19,950 --> 01:39:15,310
it's using remember I'm very immersed

1896
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:19,960
right now in chi gong which is Chinese

1897
01:39:26,220 --> 01:39:23,290
Taoist healing tradition right that

1898
01:39:29,550 --> 01:39:26,230
gives that empowers the individual so

1899
01:39:36,810 --> 01:39:29,560
cell feeling is the ability to heal

1900
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:36,820
yourself there are there's so much out

1901
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:40,690
there now that with so many techniques

1902
01:39:48,900 --> 01:39:45,850
in different traditions that can bring

1903
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:48,910
it okay so let's just go to chi gong chi

1904
01:39:54,210 --> 01:39:51,280
gong is a method by which you are

1905
01:39:54,780 --> 01:39:54,220
channeling and harnessing universal life

1906
01:39:57,660 --> 01:39:54,790
energy

1907
01:40:01,520 --> 01:39:57,670
you're harnessing it from the earth from

1908
01:40:04,950 --> 01:40:01,530
the sky from all around you it's there

1909
01:40:08,490 --> 01:40:04,960
has one of the Masters says she is free

1910
01:40:11,970 --> 01:40:08,500
no charge okay and so you learn to

1911
01:40:15,860 --> 01:40:11,980
harness that you learn to to use your

1912
01:40:19,980 --> 01:40:15,870
intention to use you know meditative

1913
01:40:24,650 --> 01:40:19,990
experiences to use visualization to

1914
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:24,660
actually transmute your physical

1915
01:40:33,030 --> 01:40:29,920
emotional mental bodies to find balance

1916
01:40:36,810 --> 01:40:33,040
and happiness

1917
01:40:42,030 --> 01:40:36,820
do you need a masculine male partner to

1918
01:40:49,530 --> 01:40:46,800
well the Buddhist hunt on tricks would

1919
01:40:52,830 --> 01:40:49,540
say that we're all essentially male and

1920
01:40:56,370 --> 01:40:52,840
female so that exists within us but

1921
01:41:04,980 --> 01:40:56,380
we're in a dual world I for my own

1922
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:04,990
experience I love men and I'm very

1923
01:41:09,300 --> 01:41:08,110
female just the way I am and and and I'm

1924
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:09,310
sure that there are women out there

1925
01:41:13,980 --> 01:41:12,130
listening right now that maybe don't

1926
01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:13,990
have a baby they even live alone right

1927
01:41:23,010 --> 01:41:19,360
and they are they are feminine and and

1928
01:41:26,070 --> 01:41:23,020
and represent correctly but they would

1929
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:26,080
say well you know what I get it but but

1930
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:29,110
I'm cool with my lifestyle too there's

1931
01:41:36,750 --> 01:41:33,760
nothing wrong with that right oh oh you

1932
01:41:40,980 --> 01:41:36,760
know we've had so many of us have had so

1933
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:40,990
much trauma and that trauma has effects

1934
01:41:48,180 --> 01:41:43,210
on you know who we are especially as

1935
01:41:50,940 --> 01:41:48,190
children on who we become right and I

1936
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:50,950
went yeah yeah yeah I get it I get it

1937
01:41:54,900 --> 01:41:53,410
I totally get that and there was

1938
01:41:58,800 --> 01:41:54,910
something else I wanted to touch upon

1939
01:42:01,230 --> 01:41:58,810
when we were talking about and I said it

1940
01:42:03,660 --> 01:42:01,240
myself which is you know the four cars

1941
01:42:06,150 --> 01:42:03,670
and the four car garage and the goals in

1942
01:42:08,250 --> 01:42:06,160
life that we are taught that doesn't

1943
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:08,260
mean and I don't want anybody out there

1944
01:42:16,740 --> 01:42:10,650
to misunderstand what I'm saying because

1945
01:42:20,250 --> 01:42:16,750
I love a v8 American classic muscle car

1946
01:42:23,370 --> 01:42:20,260
right okay but that doesn't mean that

1947
01:42:25,860 --> 01:42:23,380
that's what's gonna make you know I'm

1948
01:42:28,410 --> 01:42:25,870
turning that into some kind of icon or

1949
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:28,420
something that I worship and that's my

1950
01:42:34,590 --> 01:42:32,110
goal in life but I do appreciate jewelry

1951
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:34,600
I do appreciate where you know you've

1952
01:42:39,660 --> 01:42:36,850
seen me sure you know that I like nice

1953
01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:39,670
watches and and but those are things

1954
01:42:44,430 --> 01:42:42,250
that that make me happy and I appreciate

1955
01:42:46,440 --> 01:42:44,440
the artwork of it and I appreciate the

1956
01:42:49,470 --> 01:42:46,450
mechanics of a nice

1957
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:49,480
or harley-davidson but that doesn't mean

1958
01:42:54,180 --> 01:42:51,370
that those are the things in life that

1959
01:42:55,770 --> 01:42:54,190
are going to make me happy in the end

1960
01:42:58,440 --> 01:42:55,780
you're right you can't take those things

1961
01:43:00,600 --> 01:42:58,450
with you but it's okay to have fine art

1962
01:43:03,210 --> 01:43:00,610
and possessions and jewelry

1963
01:43:08,070 --> 01:43:03,220
of course we live and we have to do we

1964
01:43:11,460 --> 01:43:08,080
live in this reality so we're not going

1965
01:43:13,290 --> 01:43:11,470
to you know go off in a K or all of the

1966
01:43:16,200 --> 01:43:13,300
teacher there are people that go off in

1967
01:43:19,140 --> 01:43:16,210
case and you know have great insights

1968
01:43:22,500 --> 01:43:19,150
from that but most of the traditions I

1969
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:22,510
am a part of it's it's taking that

1970
01:43:28,050 --> 01:43:26,050
knowledge keeping that balance within

1971
01:43:30,900 --> 01:43:28,060
the material world we're in a material

1972
01:43:34,340 --> 01:43:30,910
world you know and why shouldn't we

1973
01:43:37,590 --> 01:43:34,350
appreciate I love beautiful clothing I

1974
01:43:40,350 --> 01:43:37,600
like beautiful feminine clothing yes you

1975
01:43:44,910 --> 01:43:40,360
do I want to bring that grace out in

1976
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:44,920
that's how I display you know other

1977
01:43:50,660 --> 01:43:47,530
people you know like jeans and that's

1978
01:43:53,730 --> 01:43:50,670
how they display that's their choice

1979
01:43:55,470 --> 01:43:53,740
there's nothing wrong with that that's

1980
01:43:58,980 --> 01:43:55,480
the way we live it really has to do more

1981
01:44:02,010 --> 01:43:58,990
with the inner right and what who are we

1982
01:44:08,190 --> 01:44:02,020
on the inner I'll tell you something

1983
01:44:09,870 --> 01:44:08,200
really funny the the the Met in New York

1984
01:44:14,070 --> 01:44:09,880
right you go to the Met you go to the

1985
01:44:17,190 --> 01:44:14,080
ancient Egypt isn't it though it's the

1986
01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:17,200
best and you go there and one of the

1987
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:20,110
things that you notice and you go up to

1988
01:44:29,610 --> 01:44:26,710
the displays of jewelry and there's

1989
01:44:36,920 --> 01:44:29,620
there's one display there that they have

1990
01:44:39,660 --> 01:44:36,930
of its three Queens and their funerary

1991
01:44:43,170 --> 01:44:39,670
garb I guess is the best way to put it

1992
01:44:45,330 --> 01:44:43,180
yeah and they're their shoes their

1993
01:44:50,030 --> 01:44:45,340
sandals that they were buried in are

1994
01:44:54,630 --> 01:44:50,040
these golden how do I say it

1995
01:44:57,510 --> 01:44:54,640
golden sandals right but it's like 24

1996
01:44:59,250 --> 01:44:57,520
karat gold and it's it's so ornate and

1997
01:45:02,189 --> 01:44:59,260
it's so beautiful

1998
01:45:06,779 --> 01:45:02,199
and the the necklaces the jewelry the

1999
01:45:11,899 --> 01:45:06,789
rings the bracelets the clothes the the

2000
01:45:16,890 --> 01:45:11,909
head where they appreciated just that

2001
01:45:19,049 --> 01:45:16,900
right and it is okay to have that but

2002
01:45:20,459 --> 01:45:19,059
you can't make it your goal in life and

2003
01:45:22,890 --> 01:45:20,469
that's not what they did but they

2004
01:45:25,859 --> 01:45:22,900
appreciated looking good and looking

2005
01:45:28,169 --> 01:45:25,869
feminine and looking masculine and and

2006
01:45:29,669 --> 01:45:28,179
yes that's that's it's it's such a

2007
01:45:32,069 --> 01:45:29,679
joyous thing to see that they

2008
01:45:34,109 --> 01:45:32,079
appreciated all of that but yet they had

2009
01:45:36,810 --> 01:45:34,119
that balance in life they had the

2010
01:45:39,919 --> 01:45:36,820
feminine they had the masculine and and

2011
01:45:43,169 --> 01:45:39,929
the respect of each other which

2012
01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:43,179
permeates through the culture itself and

2013
01:45:48,779 --> 01:45:45,280
they had that balance without the

2014
01:45:53,669 --> 01:45:48,789
distractions that we have today of

2015
01:45:57,509 --> 01:45:53,679
course I think I was you know I was in

2016
01:46:01,709 --> 01:45:57,519
India when let's see I didn't have a

2017
01:46:05,189 --> 01:46:01,719
telephone and the only way we could call

2018
01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:05,199
the West you know the US was go stand in

2019
01:46:12,060 --> 01:46:08,320
line for an hour while they did this

2020
01:46:13,589 --> 01:46:12,070
hookup to the u.s. that wouldn't always

2021
01:46:16,259 --> 01:46:13,599
go through where you'd be talking and

2022
01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:16,269
then it would end right it's really

2023
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:17,920
interesting to think back on the time

2024
01:46:23,850 --> 01:46:21,610
before the you know the cell phones and

2025
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:23,860
the smart phones and I think that we

2026
01:46:32,759 --> 01:46:29,920
were calmer you know we didn't have all

2027
01:46:37,169 --> 01:46:32,769
these these things coming at us these

2028
01:46:40,620 --> 01:46:37,179
waves of you know electromagnetic fields

2029
01:46:45,390 --> 01:46:40,630
and all of the stuff coming at us the

2030
01:46:49,129 --> 01:46:45,400
way we do now which which really keep us

2031
01:46:52,919 --> 01:46:49,139
from recognizing our true nature and

2032
01:46:55,169 --> 01:46:52,929
keeping us actually calm you know what

2033
01:46:58,669 --> 01:46:55,179
it's funny that you say that and when I

2034
01:47:02,669 --> 01:46:58,679
lived in Panama right in the Canal Zone

2035
01:47:06,060 --> 01:47:02,679
when we were down this is 1977 78 79 80

2036
01:47:08,549 --> 01:47:06,070
through that period to make a call to

2037
01:47:12,930 --> 01:47:08,559
the United States you had to go to

2038
01:47:15,060 --> 01:47:12,940
Western Union no joke Western Union

2039
01:47:18,990 --> 01:47:15,070
and pay for the call in advance and

2040
01:47:21,750 --> 01:47:19,000
schedule it so you would go home and on

2041
01:47:23,490 --> 01:47:21,760
Friday night at 8 p.m. the phone would

2042
01:47:25,290 --> 01:47:23,500
ring you'd pick it up in it's Western

2043
01:47:27,300 --> 01:47:25,300
Union and they would make the connection

2044
01:47:30,570 --> 01:47:27,310
back to the United States it was such a

2045
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:30,580
pain in the ass right that we never did

2046
01:47:36,810 --> 01:47:33,250
if we call the United States which was

2047
01:47:38,670 --> 01:47:36,820
like 2 times a year it was for something

2048
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:38,680
import you know Christmas somebody's

2049
01:47:44,070 --> 01:47:40,810
birthday or whatever but that was it

2050
01:47:46,830 --> 01:47:44,080
other than that total disconnection so

2051
01:47:49,350 --> 01:47:46,840
that's the way that it was in the Canal

2052
01:47:52,020 --> 01:47:49,360
Zone there was nothing there we had no

2053
01:47:53,430 --> 01:47:52,030
cable TV we had no television so that we

2054
01:47:56,400 --> 01:47:53,440
didn't watch TV

2055
01:47:59,300 --> 01:47:56,410
what we had was friendships right we

2056
01:48:02,160 --> 01:47:59,310
went out and explored the world and a

2057
01:48:03,540 --> 01:48:02,170
totally magical time I came back to the

2058
01:48:06,570 --> 01:48:03,550
United States and people were talking

2059
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:06,580
about TV shows like Lenny you guys even

2060
01:48:15,420 --> 01:48:12,010
care about TV I never wanted to watch it

2061
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:15,430
and and it was it was an amazing thing

2062
01:48:20,670 --> 01:48:17,410
to see because I was able to go in and

2063
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:20,680
out of that reality and and experience

2064
01:48:24,990 --> 01:48:22,449
both I couldn't wait to get back to

2065
01:48:29,150 --> 01:48:25,000
Panama and and back to my friendships

2066
01:48:32,450 --> 01:48:29,160
that I had down there yeah yeah well now

2067
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:32,460
you know kids sit at the dinner table

2068
01:48:38,580 --> 01:48:34,570
texting their friends they're not even

2069
01:48:40,979 --> 01:48:38,590
in relationship with the family no not

2070
01:48:42,260 --> 01:48:40,989
in my house they don't tell you that

2071
01:48:47,700 --> 01:48:42,270
right now

2072
01:48:51,270 --> 01:48:47,710
my house well and and it is that part of

2073
01:48:53,250 --> 01:48:51,280
let's go back to this when we look at

2074
01:48:56,610 --> 01:48:53,260
ancient Egypt let's talk about ancient

2075
01:49:01,520 --> 01:48:56,620
Egypt where obviously no television

2076
01:49:03,930 --> 01:49:01,530
right that's that's a given right so

2077
01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:03,940
most people couldn't even if there was

2078
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:05,830
writing I mean they were hieroglyphs

2079
01:49:11,970 --> 01:49:08,050
which are really interesting because you

2080
01:49:14,550 --> 01:49:11,980
know that each hieroglyph it they when

2081
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:14,560
you would touch from what I've been told

2082
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:16,330
you touch the heart glyph and you would

2083
01:49:21,650 --> 01:49:19,570
actually hear a sound interesting I have

2084
01:49:26,300 --> 01:49:21,660
not heard that I thought I was an

2085
01:49:34,190 --> 01:49:29,150
really no no yeah and you and I have

2086
01:49:37,150 --> 01:49:34,200
every every glyph has many meanings

2087
01:49:41,630 --> 01:49:37,160
you know the glyphs are symbols right

2088
01:49:46,430 --> 01:49:41,640
right so those symbols are created to

2089
01:49:56,710 --> 01:49:46,440
you know to connect you with a

2090
01:50:02,330 --> 01:49:56,720
metaphysical reality continue a simple

2091
01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:02,340
is has just so many many meanings for

2092
01:50:08,420 --> 01:50:06,650
example there is i've been

2093
01:50:11,470 --> 01:50:08,430
reconstructing the music dance and

2094
01:50:20,110 --> 01:50:11,480
ritual from the goddess temples of egypt

2095
01:50:23,350 --> 01:50:20,120
right yes and so there is a glyph it's

2096
01:50:33,610 --> 01:50:23,360
the sound is soft

2097
01:50:39,440 --> 01:50:33,620
alright so saw on one level means

2098
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:39,450
protection right right but then on

2099
01:50:48,190 --> 01:50:45,840
another level it means like the SAP of

2100
01:50:54,140 --> 01:50:48,200
light almost kind of like the Kundalini

2101
01:50:57,410 --> 01:50:54,150
and so to me that says what is the best

2102
01:51:01,670 --> 01:50:57,420
protection you know that inner light

2103
01:51:05,810 --> 01:51:01,680
that inner force that exists in the

2104
01:51:08,420 --> 01:51:05,820
heart of every every being that's about

2105
01:51:12,290 --> 01:51:08,430
to be connected to that to your true

2106
01:51:15,050 --> 01:51:12,300
nature is the best protection you could

2107
01:51:18,020 --> 01:51:15,060
possibly have it makes you wonder to how

2108
01:51:19,310 --> 01:51:18,030
they communicated and I'm talking about

2109
01:51:23,060 --> 01:51:19,320
just conversation

2110
01:51:27,560 --> 01:51:23,070
they must have understood you know just

2111
01:51:32,660 --> 01:51:27,570
picture this in 2500 BC without anything

2112
01:51:36,010 --> 01:51:32,670
else all you had was people and

2113
01:51:38,210 --> 01:51:36,020
relationships and understanding and the

2114
01:51:39,649 --> 01:51:38,220
conversation and the way that they

2115
01:51:42,229 --> 01:51:39,659
communicated and under

2116
01:51:43,790 --> 01:51:42,239
stood each other was at a completely

2117
01:51:46,719 --> 01:51:43,800
nother level

2118
01:51:49,159 --> 01:51:46,729
you know and I'm talking about a real

2119
01:51:52,219 --> 01:51:49,169
supernatural thing that was going on and

2120
01:51:54,919 --> 01:51:52,229
it just slowly faded away we have

2121
01:51:57,830 --> 01:51:54,929
amnesia we have amnesia today we have no

2122
01:52:01,239 --> 01:51:57,840
idea the way that they understood each

2123
01:52:04,339 --> 01:52:01,249
other and understood themselves inside

2124
01:52:06,439 --> 01:52:04,349
it's completely gone do you think we'll

2125
01:52:08,779 --> 01:52:06,449
ever get that back and how would we do

2126
01:52:13,009 --> 01:52:08,789
it would we have to just lose

2127
01:52:15,169 --> 01:52:13,019
electricity you know we you know what I

2128
01:52:17,629 --> 01:52:15,179
mean we can make the choice at any

2129
01:52:20,419 --> 01:52:17,639
moment we have to realize that that

2130
01:52:23,779 --> 01:52:20,429
there's something more than this maybe

2131
01:52:27,199 --> 01:52:23,789
when the suffering the suffering gets so

2132
01:52:31,250 --> 01:52:27,209
bad you know we can we can also say that

2133
01:52:34,819 --> 01:52:31,260
this is part of our karma you know that

2134
01:52:37,339 --> 01:52:34,829
that conditions come together when we

2135
01:52:40,009 --> 01:52:37,349
get to a point where it's time to go in

2136
01:52:43,250 --> 01:52:40,019
it's time to awaken to our true self

2137
01:52:45,949 --> 01:52:43,260
right but I want to talk a little more

2138
01:52:48,259 --> 01:52:45,959
about the symbols yeah let's well we'll

2139
01:52:50,419 --> 01:52:48,269
do that right after the break we're

2140
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:50,429
gonna hit a break here in just a second

2141
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and when we can also when we come back I

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01:52:58,429 --> 01:52:54,829
want to talk about the music too as well

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01:53:02,270 --> 01:52:58,439
because it's absolutely amazing and can

2144
01:53:07,159 --> 01:53:02,280
you we we talked about this briefly last

2145
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month you and I is it possible to learn

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to read hieroglyphics of course how I

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have tried I told you I told you this

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last month I've been trying to to learn

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to read hieroglyphics and I can't find a

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resource to do that how are you doing

2151
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with reading of hieroglyphics well I

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very fortunate I met a man who described

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who actually writes reads and writes

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hieroglyphics from the text his name is

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John Nichols and so we started working

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together in about 98 right where he gave

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me the glyph and the meaning and how to

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speak them

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see I have a bunch of we're gonna talk

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about that and the music too as well

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I have sculpture here and I have some of

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it I'm gonna show it in on the video

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cameras here in just a second I don't

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know what it means I have it but I just

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don't know what it means we'll talk more

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about this after the break our guest

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tonight Sharon Rose that's right

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ancient Egypt to India the Divine

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Feminine I'm your host Jimmy church this

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Sheeran rose and right before the break

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I'm talking about the reading of

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01:59:26,479 --> 01:59:24,600
hieroglyphics and and I've been wanting

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to learn I would just love to learn

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select learning an you know another

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language and so Sharon I went and

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grabbed here in the bunker on one of the

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shelves I wish you could see it but I

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have this sculpture here it's carved

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into alabaster and I'm holding it up for

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the cameras you can see it here and it

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weighs probably I don't know it's

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probably 10 pounds it's it's really

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really heavy

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so on this you can see a couple of

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cartoons there's one here there's one

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01:59:59,020 --> 01:59:56,489
here there's hieroglyphics all over the

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it's a beautiful piece of sculpture that

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02:00:06,919 --> 02:00:04,290
was found in in in one of the tombs over

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02:00:09,350 --> 02:00:06,929
in Egypt and so I have it here anyway I

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don't arrest me but I don't know what it

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02:00:15,830 --> 02:00:12,080
says I don't know anything on it it's

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it's just an amazing thing but I it sits

2281
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on the shelf man it's heavy but I don't

2282
02:00:25,129 --> 02:00:23,460
know what it means and I want to talk

2283
02:00:30,379 --> 02:00:25,139
about that but the other thing is you

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02:00:33,140 --> 02:00:30,389
have been recreating music from ancient

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02:00:37,550 --> 02:00:33,150
Egypt and it's absolutely incredible now

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02:00:40,879 --> 02:00:37,560
how do you interpret and translate and

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02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:40,889
transmit the music through you and and

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02:00:45,169 --> 02:00:44,010
then get it written is it action do you

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02:00:50,959 --> 02:00:45,179
think that this is what they were

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02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:50,969
listening to and 5,000 years ago um I'm

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02:01:04,220 --> 02:00:54,770
not sure about that I'm using influences

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from the Middle Eastern music and one of

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my drummers who was my dance partner for

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many years in New York

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02:01:16,850 --> 02:01:12,270
Raziel ed lebih he has been writing a

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02:01:21,560 --> 02:01:16,860
compendium of Middle Eastern rhythms

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02:01:23,989 --> 02:01:21,570
going way back and it's really

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he shows the flow through India into the

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Middle East the different countries and

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02:01:39,089 --> 02:01:35,440
how they the music shifted from one to

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02:01:42,259 --> 02:01:39,099
the other there's there's research I'm

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02:01:45,870 --> 02:01:42,269
not using this but there his research on

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02:01:50,299 --> 02:01:45,880
four three two that they were using that

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02:01:53,100 --> 02:01:50,309
but for me it's not so much trying to

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02:01:57,540 --> 02:01:53,110
recreate exactly it has more to do with

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02:02:01,969 --> 02:01:57,550
the metaphysical ritual aspect of it and

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02:02:07,759 --> 02:02:01,979
the the sounds of the glyphs themselves

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02:02:14,209 --> 02:02:07,769
so the music the basic music is basic

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02:02:17,850 --> 02:02:14,219
Middle Eastern rhythms and the melodies

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kind of come well based also somewhat on

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Rajas and what's called in the

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middle-east mcoms but what's more

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important for me is the experience of

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participating and creating the ritual

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itself you know in Egypt it's unlike

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India or Tibet where the the lineage was

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broken and so we're kind of like

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modern-day detectives going back and

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02:02:52,799 --> 02:02:47,099
trying to piece together what was there

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yeah so I'm sorry go ahead finish the

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thought but I don't want to let my

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question get away the way I began with

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all of this was I met an Egyptologist

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and healer named Robert masters he wrote

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a book on Sekhmet the lion headed nature

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02:03:18,719 --> 02:03:16,090
goddess of Egypt and he actually had a

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02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:18,729
statue or speaking of set of Sekhmet

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02:03:22,229 --> 02:03:21,090
that he said belonged to Ramses oh

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really

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everything and we would sit and meditate

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and we would go into these this kind of

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mutual trance together where we would

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actually journey and this was with no no

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drugs it was just this is some

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we could do we would journey to these

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02:03:49,590 --> 02:03:44,580
temples and together and receive

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02:03:52,590 --> 02:03:49,600
teachings from the temple from the

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goddesses I'm holding up a little

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02:03:59,130 --> 02:03:56,350
segment a statue that I have here said

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and and Sekhmet actually went through a

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02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:01,510
few different versions too as well

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because in the beginning just a cat

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right and and in the end through the

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02:04:17,510 --> 02:04:12,670
middle and new kingdoms transformed into

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02:04:20,160 --> 02:04:17,520
a lion headed goddess that guarded

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02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:20,170
protected the Pharaohs and stood next to

2347
02:04:23,250 --> 02:04:22,690
the Pharaohs very interesting that you

2348
02:04:25,410 --> 02:04:23,260
brought that up

2349
02:04:26,790 --> 02:04:25,420
nobody talks about segments I don't

2350
02:04:29,959 --> 02:04:26,800
understand why one of the most

2351
02:04:33,240 --> 02:04:29,969
interesting goddesses gods of Egypt and

2352
02:04:35,700 --> 02:04:33,250
people see Sekhmet all of the time but

2353
02:04:37,140 --> 02:04:35,710
they don't understand what they are

2354
02:04:40,430 --> 02:04:37,150
looking at they just think that the

2355
02:04:44,939 --> 02:04:40,440
Egypt the Egyptians worshiped cats

2356
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:44,949
no no what what they were doing the

2357
02:04:50,430 --> 02:04:48,010
reason she has a lion head is that she

2358
02:04:54,060 --> 02:04:50,440
represents that fierceness and power and

2359
02:04:56,600 --> 02:04:54,070
courage of the lion it's that back to

2360
02:05:01,680 --> 02:04:56,610
our relationship with nature and their

2361
02:05:02,910 --> 02:05:01,690
kind of awe of nature there's a lion

2362
02:05:05,820 --> 02:05:02,920
headed

2363
02:05:09,720 --> 02:05:05,830
what connected Robert and I was that I

2364
02:05:11,490 --> 02:05:09,730
had been doing a tantric

2365
02:05:13,580 --> 02:05:11,500
transformational practice from the

2366
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:13,590
Tibetan tradition of the lion headed

2367
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:21,730
dhakini named Singh kombucha and so we

2368
02:05:28,620 --> 02:05:26,650
had that lion lioness energy we were

2369
02:05:32,910 --> 02:05:28,630
always looking cross-culturally to see

2370
02:05:37,229 --> 02:05:32,920
where the you know the the Lions image

2371
02:05:42,260 --> 02:05:37,239
would appear I wanted I wanted to ask

2372
02:05:46,260 --> 02:05:42,270
you this I have I have some issues with

2373
02:05:49,320 --> 02:05:46,270
the age of Egypt and and what I mean by

2374
02:05:54,720 --> 02:05:49,330
that is the Pharaohs list and the the

2375
02:05:59,100 --> 02:05:54,730
linear time that they go back to to 3000

2376
02:06:01,260 --> 02:05:59,110
BC back to menasor men a or NARM are I

2377
02:06:03,600 --> 02:06:01,270
think that that is incorrect I think

2378
02:06:06,270 --> 02:06:03,610
that this is me but I think it's much

2379
02:06:10,169 --> 02:06:06,280
the Pharaohs list I think it reaches

2380
02:06:15,450 --> 02:06:10,179
further back than 3,000 BC I think that

2381
02:06:21,330 --> 02:06:15,460
the you would what what's your what's

2382
02:06:23,820 --> 02:06:21,340
your general idea of age of Egypt and

2383
02:06:32,459 --> 02:06:23,830
going back even to the demigods and what

2384
02:06:36,090 --> 02:06:32,469
what what existed before dynasty 0 I

2385
02:06:40,950 --> 02:06:36,100
think that as I described in my book

2386
02:06:43,410 --> 02:06:40,960
that you know we came in his light right

2387
02:06:48,419 --> 02:06:43,420
that that we weren't even that even in

2388
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:48,429
Egypt or or throughout this earth that

2389
02:06:55,640 --> 02:06:50,890
we weren't even completely material yet

2390
02:07:00,270 --> 02:06:55,650
and and so that is way way way way back

2391
02:07:04,350 --> 02:07:00,280
and and right well can be a temple

2392
02:07:06,390 --> 02:07:04,360
period actually is according to you know

2393
02:07:08,669 --> 02:07:06,400
what the teachings I've received that

2394
02:07:13,470 --> 02:07:08,679
the the temple period is actually when

2395
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:13,480
things started to concretize yeah okay

2396
02:07:18,270 --> 02:07:15,370
so that's but that's exactly what I'm

2397
02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:18,280
talking about right there when we look

2398
02:07:27,720 --> 02:07:22,690
at what Orthodox history is trying to

2399
02:07:34,650 --> 02:07:27,730
tell us is that at 3000 BC boom dynasty

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02:07:39,209 --> 02:07:34,660
1 dynasty 0 at 3,000 years before 0 now

2401
02:07:40,910 --> 02:07:39,219
I I don't I don't I don't believe that I

2402
02:07:43,380 --> 02:07:40,920
don't think that that's a 3,000 year

2403
02:07:45,390 --> 02:07:43,390
period of history and I think that all

2404
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:45,400
of those temples and everything extend

2405
02:07:53,939 --> 02:07:49,690
way back into time the the the great

2406
02:07:56,430 --> 02:07:53,949
pyramid Giza that wasn't done at 2650 BC

2407
02:07:58,620 --> 02:07:56,440
it just was not and it was much older

2408
02:08:00,180 --> 02:07:58,630
but yet that they tried it

2409
02:08:03,419 --> 02:08:00,190
tell us that these calendars are

2410
02:08:08,129 --> 02:08:03,429
accurate if you were going to put a time

2411
02:08:11,939 --> 02:08:08,139
on that or an age for the the earliest

2412
02:08:13,890 --> 02:08:11,949
temple they go at Abydos you know how

2413
02:08:18,780 --> 02:08:13,900
old do you think these structures

2414
02:08:24,229 --> 02:08:18,790
actually are I really I I really don't

2415
02:08:26,970 --> 02:08:24,239
know I mean we would say it just depends

2416
02:08:32,450 --> 02:08:26,980
what kind of calendar what kind of

2417
02:08:36,899 --> 02:08:32,460
teachings one follows all I know is that

2418
02:08:39,149 --> 02:08:36,909
history as it's been written as an

2419
02:08:44,610 --> 02:08:39,159
agenda and history is written by the

2420
02:08:48,270 --> 02:08:44,620
victor so there's a lot that's why we

2421
02:08:50,310 --> 02:08:48,280
look into myth that's why we look into

2422
02:08:54,050 --> 02:08:50,320
legend because that gives you a

2423
02:08:56,879 --> 02:08:54,060
perspective that is different from the

2424
02:08:59,479 --> 02:08:56,889
you know what you're learning but I'm

2425
02:09:02,820 --> 02:08:59,489
there let's go to Egypt there are many

2426
02:09:06,330 --> 02:09:02,830
many of us who are very very interested

2427
02:09:08,340 --> 02:09:06,340
in the metaphysics of Egypt yet how much

2428
02:09:11,550 --> 02:09:08,350
of that do you find if you go study

2429
02:09:15,450 --> 02:09:11,560
Egyptology in the university I love that

2430
02:09:23,340 --> 02:09:15,460
I'm tweeting this out history is written

2431
02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:23,350
by the victor and and what did he and

2432
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:25,330
Victor what does that mean that means

2433
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:27,850
it's just war I was talking to my son

2434
02:09:35,640 --> 02:09:30,010
about this he said you know it's like

2435
02:09:39,149 --> 02:09:35,650
every all these book it's like the

2436
02:09:41,160 --> 02:09:39,159
glorification of war even if you look

2437
02:09:42,629 --> 02:09:41,170
that's what I found as a child in the

2438
02:09:46,430 --> 02:09:42,639
Jewish tradition it was like always

2439
02:09:50,310 --> 02:09:46,440
about all this fighting it's like why

2440
02:09:54,709 --> 02:09:50,320
why is war become you know the biggest

2441
02:10:00,260 --> 02:09:54,719
thing in history well and if you look at

2442
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:00,270
Akhenaten and and that getting out of

2443
02:10:06,689 --> 02:10:05,050
the the traditional religions and the

2444
02:10:08,610 --> 02:10:06,699
multiple gods and everything out and it

2445
02:10:11,970 --> 02:10:08,620
wanted to just go to

2446
02:10:16,800 --> 02:10:11,980
one God and also an artistic and

2447
02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:16,810
creative period and and Nefertiti and it

2448
02:10:22,980 --> 02:10:20,650
all seemed like that was going to be a

2449
02:10:25,590 --> 02:10:22,990
good period but it did away with all of

2450
02:10:28,620 --> 02:10:25,600
the priests all of the temples the money

2451
02:10:31,470 --> 02:10:28,630
system that the priests were profiting

2452
02:10:34,530 --> 02:10:31,480
on and had a really good lifestyle and

2453
02:10:37,740 --> 02:10:34,540
he erased all of that but it was a great

2454
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:37,750
time for Egypt it was a beautiful time

2455
02:10:43,620 --> 02:10:40,210
and all they could do was get rid of him

2456
02:10:48,780 --> 02:10:43,630
as quick as possible why get back to war

2457
02:10:50,700 --> 02:10:48,790
get back to profiting and and the the

2458
02:10:52,890 --> 02:10:50,710
culture that the priests had built for

2459
02:10:55,410 --> 02:10:52,900
themselves and that's a perfect example

2460
02:10:59,820 --> 02:10:55,420
of it there and Egypt went through it

2461
02:11:01,860 --> 02:10:59,830
didn't they oh they did he it may have

2462
02:11:04,050 --> 02:11:01,870
been if you look at the images of him he

2463
02:11:11,190 --> 02:11:04,060
looks like an extraterrestrial yeah he's

2464
02:11:15,900 --> 02:11:11,200
ETS yes he certainly is perhaps I'm just

2465
02:11:20,540 --> 02:11:15,910
you know thinking about this perhaps

2466
02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:20,550
this worship of you know r10 really was

2467
02:11:29,310 --> 02:11:24,730
the the worship of that source of what

2468
02:11:35,670 --> 02:11:29,320
what in the in the Tibetan tradition

2469
02:11:37,580 --> 02:11:35,680
they'd call source awareness or in the

2470
02:11:40,620 --> 02:11:37,590
Taoist tradition they would call the Dao

2471
02:11:44,900 --> 02:11:40,630
it it was a recognition of what is

2472
02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:44,910
beyond all of the forms just the light

2473
02:11:52,650 --> 02:11:49,450
itself the light of consciousness the

2474
02:11:57,000 --> 02:11:52,660
lightest love and it lasted for like 50

2475
02:12:00,720 --> 02:11:57,010
years right yeah yeah it's it's it's so

2476
02:12:05,820 --> 02:12:00,730
crazy how Egypt went right back into its

2477
02:12:08,370 --> 02:12:05,830
old ways for another 1,500 years I mean

2478
02:12:12,090 --> 02:12:08,380
they were conquered and overrun so many

2479
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:12,100
times and well maybe maybe they weren't

2480
02:12:18,390 --> 02:12:15,850
ready for you know people love they love

2481
02:12:22,409 --> 02:12:18,400
their symbols they love their deities

2482
02:12:26,100 --> 02:12:22,419
they love the the art

2483
02:12:29,250 --> 02:12:26,110
right that it seems more human you know

2484
02:12:32,159 --> 02:12:29,260
it's very hard to understand that purity

2485
02:12:33,270 --> 02:12:32,169
that source that light from which it all

2486
02:12:36,419 --> 02:12:33,280
emerges

2487
02:12:39,419 --> 02:12:36,429
now there's okay now there's something

2488
02:12:43,799 --> 02:12:39,429
else I wanted to ask you which is and I

2489
02:12:46,620 --> 02:12:43,809
don't understand why if things aren't

2490
02:12:50,149 --> 02:12:46,630
looked at like I'm about to present you

2491
02:12:52,739 --> 02:12:50,159
have ancient Sumer you have Mesopotamia

2492
02:12:56,370 --> 02:12:52,749
geographically is a stone's throw away

2493
02:12:58,979 --> 02:12:56,380
from Giza and the Nile and that part of

2494
02:13:02,609 --> 02:12:58,989
the Mediterranean it's right there it's

2495
02:13:06,120 --> 02:13:02,619
it's too close both both cultures

2496
02:13:13,109 --> 02:13:06,130
started at about the same time if we

2497
02:13:15,500 --> 02:13:13,119
believe history at 3000 BC if we believe

2498
02:13:18,839 --> 02:13:15,510
history but one thing is for sure

2499
02:13:20,219 --> 02:13:18,849
geographically I know which is it's

2500
02:13:23,939 --> 02:13:20,229
right next to each other

2501
02:13:29,969 --> 02:13:23,949
is there a is there a relationship

2502
02:13:33,029 --> 02:13:29,979
between Sumer Mesopotamia and and Egypt

2503
02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:33,039
and could they be and I'm going out on

2504
02:13:38,219 --> 02:13:36,880
limited but could they be the same well

2505
02:13:40,739 --> 02:13:38,229
they're clearly could be a connection

2506
02:13:43,199 --> 02:13:40,749
this is actually Sumer as an area that

2507
02:13:47,520 --> 02:13:43,209
of research that Jay knows more than I

2508
02:13:50,699 --> 02:13:47,530
do about but you know I would take it

2509
02:13:55,139 --> 02:13:50,709
back to this what I've been looking at

2510
02:13:57,179 --> 02:13:55,149
and j2 for many years is what we call

2511
02:14:00,839 --> 02:13:57,189
the primordial tradition or the

2512
02:14:04,310 --> 02:14:00,849
perennial tradition so this takes you

2513
02:14:07,529 --> 02:14:04,320
back to the fact that once upon a time

2514
02:14:10,919 --> 02:14:07,539
it was all the it's kind of like the

2515
02:14:12,600 --> 02:14:10,929
Tower of Babel right iceworm I that yes

2516
02:14:15,209 --> 02:14:12,610
we spoke the same language

2517
02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:15,219
yeah then when that happened you know we

2518
02:14:22,109 --> 02:14:19,360
got split into all these different you

2519
02:14:25,560 --> 02:14:22,119
know different countries and languages

2520
02:14:28,139 --> 02:14:25,570
and all of that and it's interesting

2521
02:14:30,540 --> 02:14:28,149
because you know it's beginning of Rosh

2522
02:14:33,919 --> 02:14:30,550
Hashanah for the Jewish tradition right

2523
02:14:37,120 --> 02:14:33,929
now and there's this concept that that

2524
02:14:40,760 --> 02:14:37,130
called the

2525
02:14:42,709 --> 02:14:40,770
the Tea so in in the concept it has

2526
02:14:45,740 --> 02:14:42,719
to do when there was the fall into

2527
02:14:50,600 --> 02:14:45,750
duality from you know grace the fall

2528
02:14:53,930 --> 02:14:50,610
into duality and they fell the light the

2529
02:14:56,090 --> 02:14:53,940
the upper Sephiroth could hold it up

2530
02:15:03,040 --> 02:14:56,100
three but then it shattered into all

2531
02:15:09,560 --> 02:15:03,050
these different sparks and became these

2532
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:09,570
shelves they're called and they they

2533
02:15:16,040 --> 02:15:12,570
fell through the what was called the

2534
02:15:20,300 --> 02:15:16,050
medical metaphysical void into what they

2535
02:15:23,030 --> 02:15:20,310
call the other side and interpret tenets

2536
02:15:27,260 --> 02:15:23,040
rated the world of action and material

2537
02:15:29,630 --> 02:15:27,270
reality down into the two mal codes the

2538
02:15:35,110 --> 02:15:29,640
earth the world of earthly manifestation

2539
02:15:38,810 --> 02:15:35,120
and as it did that as they fell they

2540
02:15:43,700 --> 02:15:38,820
attracted these husks they're called

2541
02:15:49,450 --> 02:15:43,710
kelipot and those obscured the light and

2542
02:15:56,000 --> 02:15:49,460
knowledge of our primordial source so

2543
02:15:58,430 --> 02:15:56,010
now some of the what's the Kabbalistic

2544
02:16:03,080 --> 02:15:58,440
jews would talk what they're what they

2545
02:16:06,830 --> 02:16:03,090
want to do is bring the Taccone is like

2546
02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:06,840
where all this light comes back to the

2547
02:16:15,850 --> 02:16:08,730
source where at all instead of being

2548
02:16:19,910 --> 02:16:15,860
shattered like that we come back into

2549
02:16:21,770 --> 02:16:19,920
the fullness of who we really are so to

2550
02:16:27,920 --> 02:16:21,780
do that we have to cleanse of course

2551
02:16:30,260 --> 02:16:27,930
cleanse our mind and come back into the

2552
02:16:34,060 --> 02:16:30,270
what we would call enlightened qualities

2553
02:16:38,600 --> 02:16:34,070
and once that happens so that's wisdom

2554
02:16:42,770 --> 02:16:38,610
right and once all these sparks come

2555
02:16:46,640 --> 02:16:42,780
back then we are back into a time of

2556
02:16:49,879 --> 02:16:46,650
beauty and grace now because we live in

2557
02:16:52,549 --> 02:16:49,889
the this time even fact

2558
02:16:54,259 --> 02:16:52,559
King has been on some level ik and you

2559
02:16:56,780 --> 02:16:54,269
can say it's corrupted you know people

2560
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:56,790
would say oh they wanted you know end

2561
02:17:02,719 --> 02:16:58,559
the world it's gonna it's an apocalyptic

2562
02:17:06,049 --> 02:17:02,729
thing you know but and it's hard I think

2563
02:17:11,479 --> 02:17:06,059
the teaching of you know this this fall

2564
02:17:17,660 --> 02:17:11,489
into duality and then this reversal of

2565
02:17:23,450 --> 02:17:17,670
that back into a unity is beautiful and

2566
02:17:25,700 --> 02:17:23,460
if we go way back if we go way back and

2567
02:17:31,490 --> 02:17:25,710
I've been reading about this lately

2568
02:17:32,990 --> 02:17:31,500
about Thoth being the son of inky and if

2569
02:17:36,919 --> 02:17:33,000
that is the case

2570
02:17:38,959 --> 02:17:36,929
yeah right right right and that opens up

2571
02:17:40,939 --> 02:17:38,969
and see the thing is and geographically

2572
02:17:45,469 --> 02:17:40,949
we're talking about a very small area

2573
02:17:50,540 --> 02:17:45,479
here and those demigods and what

2574
02:17:52,700 --> 02:17:50,550
predated the dynastic period of of all

2575
02:17:55,519 --> 02:17:52,710
of that coming through the mythology and

2576
02:17:58,490 --> 02:17:55,529
the storytelling of the Sumerian texts

2577
02:18:02,570 --> 02:17:58,500
and the the Anunnaki and that plays

2578
02:18:05,030 --> 02:18:02,580
through into the culture of Egypt but

2579
02:18:07,040 --> 02:18:05,040
yet history doesn't mention any of this

2580
02:18:09,169 --> 02:18:07,050
and the possibility of all of that

2581
02:18:11,479 --> 02:18:09,179
because the origins the progenitor zuv

2582
02:18:16,250 --> 02:18:11,489
all of this go back to one point source

2583
02:18:20,360 --> 02:18:16,260
eventually right yes yes and the thing

2584
02:18:24,589 --> 02:18:20,370
is though what I want to tell you is

2585
02:18:28,099 --> 02:18:24,599
that we have within us the ability to to

2586
02:18:31,370 --> 02:18:28,109
reach that source we do it's there in

2587
02:18:34,309 --> 02:18:31,380
each of us it's just we have to make the

2588
02:18:36,919 --> 02:18:34,319
decision to take that path because I

2589
02:18:41,120 --> 02:18:36,929
mean the tantrics would say that's like

2590
02:18:43,429 --> 02:18:41,130
walking the razor's edge you have to let

2591
02:18:45,469 --> 02:18:43,439
go of all all of this all of your

2592
02:18:49,879 --> 02:18:45,479
preconceptions all of your programming

2593
02:18:53,240 --> 02:18:49,889
and learn to walk a very different path

2594
02:18:55,339 --> 02:18:53,250
than those people and what's what do you

2595
02:18:57,649 --> 02:18:55,349
say to that person that may be on the

2596
02:19:00,979 --> 02:18:57,659
edge right there right there

2597
02:19:03,180 --> 02:19:00,989
Sharon they're on the edge that how to

2598
02:19:06,150 --> 02:19:03,190
recognize that you're at that

2599
02:19:07,621 --> 02:19:06,160
point and and then obviously you're

2600
02:19:09,450 --> 02:19:07,631
gonna do something about it but how do

2601
02:19:14,791 --> 02:19:09,460
you recognize that you're at that point

2602
02:19:17,610 --> 02:19:14,801
that's your your right there I would say

2603
02:19:21,331 --> 02:19:17,620
that you start what happens is that you

2604
02:19:24,960 --> 02:19:21,341
start perceiving first of all I think

2605
02:19:27,450 --> 02:19:24,970
that that you know the the gnostic

2606
02:19:31,621 --> 02:19:27,460
tradition the gnostic tradition the

2607
02:19:34,140 --> 02:19:31,631
focus is on direct experience right it's

2608
02:19:38,510 --> 02:19:34,150
not what you've heard from anybody else

2609
02:19:43,530 --> 02:19:38,520
it's what you can aesthetically

2610
02:19:45,230 --> 02:19:43,540
energetically experience and and that is

2611
02:19:50,911 --> 02:19:45,240
a place to start

2612
02:19:53,430 --> 02:19:50,921
you know I I only I don't really believe

2613
02:19:57,121 --> 02:19:53,440
much I see on the news if I hear that

2614
02:20:00,720 --> 02:19:57,131
someone had experience and they're

2615
02:20:04,140 --> 02:20:00,730
telling me about it then I feel more

2616
02:20:07,591 --> 02:20:04,150
that I can trust that then all this the

2617
02:20:12,570 --> 02:20:07,601
phantasmagoria that they're putting out

2618
02:20:16,490 --> 02:20:12,580
on us so it begins with first of all

2619
02:20:19,171 --> 02:20:16,500
recognizing is that you're more than

2620
02:20:25,261 --> 02:20:19,181
just this physical body and just this

2621
02:20:27,480 --> 02:20:25,271
mind and you know the nature of how we

2622
02:20:31,051 --> 02:20:27,490
live right now and how many cars you

2623
02:20:33,930 --> 02:20:31,061
have you know you're more than this eco

2624
02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:33,940
and what's the first book that you would

2625
02:20:38,820 --> 02:20:36,160
recommend when somebody is at that point

2626
02:20:42,060 --> 02:20:38,830
the the epiphany is happening right the

2627
02:20:45,350 --> 02:20:42,070
light is shining what would what would

2628
02:20:55,230 --> 02:20:45,360
you suggest what's the softball right

2629
02:20:59,180 --> 02:20:55,240
romasaa yeah what a tradition I just

2630
02:21:02,881 --> 02:20:59,190
interviewed a incredible scholar named

2631
02:21:05,911 --> 02:21:02,891
Ken Cohen he's a Taoist scholar Qigong

2632
02:21:07,440 --> 02:21:05,921
teacher he has a beautiful book all the

2633
02:21:10,850 --> 02:21:07,450
way up Qi Gong that also gives you

2634
02:21:13,560 --> 02:21:10,860
exercises that include what's called the

2635
02:21:16,070 --> 02:21:13,570
small heavenly orbit orbit and the

2636
02:21:19,190 --> 02:21:16,080
microcosmic orbit in which your

2637
02:21:25,120 --> 02:21:19,200
a tuning yourself to the heaven and the

2638
02:21:29,810 --> 02:21:25,130
earth and you're sending light around

2639
02:21:32,360 --> 02:21:29,820
the central pillar of your body and you

2640
02:21:34,850 --> 02:21:32,370
haven't would be which would be the jet

2641
02:21:38,060 --> 02:21:34,860
tiller from the Egyptian you have

2642
02:21:40,340 --> 02:21:38,070
overhead sacred mysteries - I was I was

2643
02:21:45,460 --> 02:21:40,350
over there last week poking around on

2644
02:21:55,100 --> 02:21:49,610
selection of books there is that book on

2645
02:21:57,680 --> 02:21:55,110
on sacred mysteries no no but we do have

2646
02:22:00,320 --> 02:21:57,690
a very interesting film we did many

2647
02:22:04,580 --> 02:22:00,330
years ago called healing the luminous

2648
02:22:07,660 --> 02:22:04,590
body without their Tobi all those from

2649
02:22:10,370 --> 02:22:07,670
the trained and Mikado tradition of kuru

2650
02:22:12,920 --> 02:22:10,380
so he has this whole healing light body

2651
02:22:16,130 --> 02:22:12,930
school and that's a very beautiful

2652
02:22:18,860 --> 02:22:16,140
introduction to understanding the energy

2653
02:22:20,840 --> 02:22:18,870
body you know that we are so much more

2654
02:22:23,420 --> 02:22:20,850
than we've been led to believe and

2655
02:22:25,490 --> 02:22:23,430
what's the next film that you're working

2656
02:22:29,270 --> 02:22:25,500
on I'm looking at the poster of it here

2657
02:22:31,970 --> 02:22:29,280
but tell us about it well there's an

2658
02:22:34,190 --> 02:22:31,980
interesting background because I was

2659
02:22:36,410 --> 02:22:34,200
starting to work after we did the last

2660
02:22:38,060 --> 02:22:36,420
avatar which introduces which is a

2661
02:22:40,640 --> 02:22:38,070
narrative film that introduces the

2662
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concept of the light body so there's

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sort of Alex gray like visuals Neale

2664
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Donald Walsch

2665
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place count st. Germain and shows us a

2666
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light body and then since I've been

2667
02:22:54,920 --> 02:22:52,890
doing the practice from the Tibetan

2668
02:22:58,190 --> 02:22:54,930
tradition looking at it from the

2669
02:23:02,780 --> 02:22:58,200
Egyptian from many traditions since 1985

2670
02:23:04,640 --> 02:23:02,790
I was thinking I do a a documentary on

2671
02:23:07,130 --> 02:23:04,650
the light body from a deeper perspective

2672
02:23:09,560 --> 02:23:07,140
but I went to interview montage Chia's

2673
02:23:14,960 --> 02:23:09,570
was a very famous chi gong Taoist master

2674
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and it was at a center in in Lenox

2675
02:23:19,100 --> 02:23:16,380
Massachusetts and there was a total

2676
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medical Qi Gong event going on and the

2677
02:23:25,370 --> 02:23:22,350
owner yang Jing said to me oh well

2678
02:23:29,720 --> 02:23:25,380
you're here I've got ten Taoist Master's

2679
02:23:33,890 --> 02:23:29,730
Qi Gong masters just interview everybody

2680
02:23:36,500 --> 02:23:33,900
and it was amazing I really got and my

2681
02:23:40,520 --> 02:23:36,510
cameraman got what we call the Qi

2682
02:23:42,980 --> 02:23:40,530
transmission it was like every one of

2683
02:23:45,140 --> 02:23:42,990
these these and I didn't know much about

2684
02:23:49,400 --> 02:23:45,150
Taoism I was asking them whatever I

2685
02:23:52,881 --> 02:23:49,410
could think of and every one of these

2686
02:23:54,860 --> 02:23:52,891
teachers male and female for the our

2687
02:23:57,080 --> 02:23:54,870
interview they were standing in the

2688
02:23:59,900 --> 02:23:57,090
midst of nature nobody and they were

2689
02:24:02,801 --> 02:23:59,910
radiate they're just filled with light

2690
02:24:06,080 --> 02:24:02,811
and healthy real if there's one man

2691
02:24:08,511 --> 02:24:06,090
master li he was a Chinese martial arts

2692
02:24:10,100 --> 02:24:08,521
film star and then he got into Chico he

2693
02:24:12,740 --> 02:24:10,110
actually discovered and trained Jet Li

2694
02:24:17,210 --> 02:24:12,750
he's in the film he's 80 years old he

2695
02:24:21,890 --> 02:24:17,220
moves like he's in his 20s I mean I was

2696
02:24:24,921 --> 02:24:21,900
so amazed by their health and their

2697
02:24:27,921 --> 02:24:24,931
radiance and their happiness that I said

2698
02:24:30,320 --> 02:24:27,931
I have to pursue this and so that's what

2699
02:24:33,250 --> 02:24:30,330
I've been doing and I just feel that

2700
02:24:36,980 --> 02:24:33,260
it's a it's a teaching that it's not

2701
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complicated it's it's readily available

2702
02:24:45,700 --> 02:24:42,470
and it gives you the means first of all

2703
02:24:49,131 --> 02:24:45,710
it brings you into this sense of

2704
02:24:51,890 --> 02:24:49,141
stillness in movement movement in

2705
02:24:56,030 --> 02:24:51,900
stillness so that you have this like

2706
02:24:59,270 --> 02:24:56,040
relaxed sense all the time you come into

2707
02:25:00,950 --> 02:24:59,280
a sense of balance your body because

2708
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there's inner alchemy where you are

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02:25:06,080 --> 02:25:04,141
actually healing and transmuting the

2710
02:25:09,801 --> 02:25:06,090
energy of your organs and actually

2711
02:25:11,870 --> 02:25:09,811
growing your light body you're working

2712
02:25:15,761 --> 02:25:11,880
with your transmuting your emotions

2713
02:25:18,500 --> 02:25:15,771
you're working with your thoughts and

2714
02:25:20,600 --> 02:25:18,510
noticing how your thoughts build and

2715
02:25:23,960 --> 02:25:20,610
grow and turn into tornadoes and drive

2716
02:25:30,110 --> 02:25:23,970
you crazy right right and ways and ways

2717
02:25:33,171 --> 02:25:30,120
to to transmute that and to come to this

2718
02:25:37,850 --> 02:25:33,181
incredible balance in yourself and this

2719
02:25:40,570 --> 02:25:37,860
love of nature inner nature and outer

2720
02:25:43,370 --> 02:25:40,580
nature it's called Ngong and wiggle and

2721
02:25:45,740 --> 02:25:43,380
so I became

2722
02:25:49,550 --> 02:25:45,750
I started doing the practice a year ago

2723
02:25:54,170 --> 02:25:49,560
and I people are telling me I look a lot

2724
02:25:59,480 --> 02:25:54,180
younger my energy is much stronger my

2725
02:26:01,310 --> 02:25:59,490
Chi is much stronger and it's just been

2726
02:26:05,000 --> 02:26:01,320
an extraordinary journey the teachers

2727
02:26:07,940 --> 02:26:05,010
are very excited about it because I'm

2728
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coming from a deep perspective not just

2729
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superficial so it's been an amazing

2730
02:26:18,080 --> 02:26:14,090
journey and what's the film called

2731
02:26:20,210 --> 02:26:18,090
quantum Chi quantum Chi and I just want

2732
02:26:22,250 --> 02:26:20,220
everybody look at Chi in relation we go

2733
02:26:25,060 --> 02:26:22,260
into science we looked at Chi in

2734
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relation to the quantum field I have

2735
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I've just posted the the images of the

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movie poster and of course a link up to

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sacred mysteries dot-com it's right

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there in Twitter everybody go and visit

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02:26:40,639 --> 02:26:38,700
there's a great book selection over

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there too as well and there's videos and

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and everything that sacred mysteries is

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up to it's all right there Sharon thank

2743
02:26:51,110 --> 02:26:48,229
you for the conversation tonight

2744
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absolutely Bruin pleasure yeah so much

2745
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fun and I can't wait to get you Becca

2746
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and when you come back we'll focus on

2747
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one subject tonight we had to cover a

2748
02:27:02,600 --> 02:26:59,399
little bit of everything thank you so

2749
02:27:04,910 --> 02:27:02,610
much here and be safe and give my love

2750
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to Rita absolutely she's down the hall

2751
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in her studio she's listening thank you

2752
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so much Sharon be safe great

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conversation shake her mysteries.com the

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quantum she the the poster is beautiful

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in it and that really cool all right

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everything is up in Twitter you can also

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go to Jimmy Church radio comm and click

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on the links over there I'll open up the

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phone lines and get into some other

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stuff right after the break 3 2 3 8 2 5

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this is fade to black Thank You Sharon

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02:32:20,470 --> 02:32:18,400
all right welcome back fade to black

2851
02:32:22,150 --> 02:32:20,480
Thank You Sharon Rose great fascinated

2852
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conversation tonight love the history

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opening up the phone lines 3 2 3 8 2 5 5

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0 4 5 4 3 2 3 2 7 5 9 6 9 5 both phone

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banks are now open and what do you think

2856
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about that conversation the thing is and

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it's a weird zone to go into it's a

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weird zone when we start talking about

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the the feminist movement that went down

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in the 60s and 70s and she said it you

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know you know the burning of the bras

2862
02:33:02,820 --> 02:32:59,500
and that everything that went down but

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the it's and I understand that it's a

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weird thing to go into because equality

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and the supporting of both sides needs

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to be there right but is there the

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breakdown of the family unit that that

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happened and these are facts this is you

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know this isn't you know we can theorize

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why things happen like they did

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historically but is that general

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breakdown that happened because of that

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part of these problems that we have

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today you know I I trip on this and I

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really really really want to see some

2876
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responses here from everybody the the

2877
02:33:57,630 --> 02:33:53,320
teacher in school the teacher when I was

2878
02:34:01,950 --> 02:33:57,640
growing up if I went home and complained

2879
02:34:04,860 --> 02:34:01,960
about a teacher to my parents my parents

2880
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would have said you know what sorry man

2881
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the teacher is right you are wrong and

2882
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that is it right now today if if

2883
02:34:16,650 --> 02:34:14,590
somebody comes home and complains about

2884
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a teacher teachers going to jail teacher

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loses its job the teacher now knows the

2886
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students in class today know that they

2887
02:34:30,301 --> 02:34:26,680
are in control and the teacher is not

2888
02:34:33,060 --> 02:34:30,311
there is no respect in a general sense

2889
02:34:35,040 --> 02:34:33,070
in a general sense in the public schools

2890
02:34:36,720 --> 02:34:35,050
that think about that that's got to be

2891
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the roughest job in the world there is

2892
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no respect at all right now that

2893
02:34:48,421 --> 02:34:44,860
breakdown is there is there is that part

2894
02:34:51,900 --> 02:34:48,431
of what's going on you know I I remember

2895
02:34:54,961 --> 02:34:51,910
getting paddled in school by teachers

2896
02:34:57,120 --> 02:34:54,971
right you walked into class in the and

2897
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the paddle was sitting on the chalkboard

2898
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in the chalk holder it's sitting right

2899
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there the threat of getting whacked in

2900
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the hallway was all know and as crazy as

2901
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that sounds I was okay with it and I

2902
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couldn't go home and complain about that

2903
02:35:14,820 --> 02:35:13,271
it would get you nowhere what I'm gonna

2904
02:35:18,450 --> 02:35:14,830
run down to the principal's office

2905
02:35:22,461 --> 02:35:18,460
and and you know those days are gone now

2906
02:35:25,560 --> 02:35:22,471
I'm not you know I'm not saying that

2907
02:35:27,660 --> 02:35:25,570
think about what I you know I don't know

2908
02:35:30,450 --> 02:35:27,670
you know and I don't want to sound

2909
02:35:33,301 --> 02:35:30,460
strange here I really don't I'm trying

2910
02:35:36,810 --> 02:35:33,311
to figure out what is going wrong you

2911
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know I'm okay with the way that I grew

2912
02:35:44,190 --> 02:35:41,110
up I'm okay with it and I had respect

2913
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for every teacher that I ever had my

2914
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homework got done I tried to get good

2915
02:35:52,711 --> 02:35:50,710
grades I was always there to learn you

2916
02:35:54,450 --> 02:35:52,721
know and that I just don't think that

2917
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that's what's going on today let's go to

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the phones hi you're live on fade to

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black who's calling yeah you're live

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right now oh my I you're gonna have to

2921
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walk me through this go ahead you called

2922
02:36:18,001 --> 02:36:13,271
so what do you think of this show let's

2923
02:36:20,370 --> 02:36:18,011
start there I thought it was fantastic

2924
02:36:24,030 --> 02:36:20,380
I've been following sharing news for a

2925
02:36:27,780 --> 02:36:24,040
while and I just got on your site two

2926
02:36:30,900 --> 02:36:27,790
nights ago and the issues gonna be on

2927
02:36:34,261 --> 02:36:30,910
and I am fascinated by what you're

2928
02:36:36,511 --> 02:36:34,271
putting out to the world we we do the

2929
02:36:39,530 --> 02:36:36,521
best that we can but let me say what's

2930
02:36:47,671 --> 02:36:45,870
Natasha when I sit down and and have

2931
02:36:49,830 --> 02:36:47,681
conversations with and hang out with

2932
02:36:51,599 --> 02:36:49,840
with somebody like Sharon and you get

2933
02:36:54,179 --> 02:36:51,609
inside

2934
02:36:58,229 --> 02:36:54,189
of them and he figure out where they're

2935
02:37:01,290 --> 02:36:58,239
coming from all I can do is think about

2936
02:37:02,729 --> 02:37:01,300
the you know Sharon needs to and she's

2937
02:37:04,260 --> 02:37:02,739
been doing this for a long time she's

2938
02:37:06,989 --> 02:37:04,270
you know she's out there and doing their

2939
02:37:09,960 --> 02:37:06,999
thing but all I can think about is my

2940
02:37:12,139 --> 02:37:09,970
audience needs to be part of this

2941
02:37:15,710 --> 02:37:12,149
conversation that I'm having right now

2942
02:37:18,269 --> 02:37:15,720
this needs to get out to the world and

2943
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:18,279
and if there's a way I can get a small

2944
02:37:23,729 --> 02:37:21,760
piece of her and and you know a small

2945
02:37:25,859 --> 02:37:23,739
piece because she's so vast right if

2946
02:37:29,429 --> 02:37:25,869
there's a way to get a small piece of

2947
02:37:31,830 --> 02:37:29,439
her out there and her message it can get

2948
02:37:34,500 --> 02:37:31,840
to my audience male or female it doesn't

2949
02:37:38,309 --> 02:37:34,510
mess that even the point

2950
02:37:39,960 --> 02:37:38,319
then I win and the audience wins and and

2951
02:37:43,679 --> 02:37:39,970
and it's difficult because she's so

2952
02:37:46,739 --> 02:37:43,689
smart and she is so grounded and she

2953
02:37:48,750 --> 02:37:46,749
knows so much about so many different

2954
02:37:51,210 --> 02:37:48,760
things and I just need to get a small

2955
02:37:52,559 --> 02:37:51,220
piece of that out to the audience and I

2956
02:37:55,019 --> 02:37:52,569
hope that I did that tonight do you

2957
02:37:58,349 --> 02:37:55,029
think you think we succeeded just a

2958
02:38:02,130 --> 02:37:58,359
little bit oh yeah I mean I had no idea

2959
02:38:05,790 --> 02:38:02,140
she you know I I didn't know how she

2960
02:38:11,040 --> 02:38:05,800
grew up or I've kind of seen like the

2961
02:38:14,519 --> 02:38:11,050
goddess side of it all and so just I

2962
02:38:17,909 --> 02:38:14,529
have that you know realization like this

2963
02:38:20,429 --> 02:38:17,919
is a person you know she has this fast

2964
02:38:25,699 --> 02:38:20,439
you know like you were saying she just

2965
02:38:28,830 --> 02:38:25,709
has had so much experience and and now

2966
02:38:31,349 --> 02:38:28,840
it's like tangible because she's gone to

2967
02:38:32,159 --> 02:38:31,359
these places where that spirit is still

2968
02:38:35,250 --> 02:38:32,169
very much alive

2969
02:38:37,380 --> 02:38:35,260
and she's bringing it back to a place

2970
02:38:39,420 --> 02:38:37,390
where word were you know in America

2971
02:38:43,199 --> 02:38:39,430
we're really trying to understand what

2972
02:38:44,489 --> 02:38:43,209
that feminine aspect is because you know

2973
02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:44,499
like you were talking about what week

2974
02:38:47,599 --> 02:38:46,090
the burning of the bras I didn't I

2975
02:38:53,279 --> 02:38:47,609
wasn't even born yet

2976
02:38:55,380 --> 02:38:53,289
I mean I had an experiences of my mom

2977
02:38:58,229 --> 02:38:55,390
who did this through that shoes she went

2978
02:39:03,319 --> 02:38:58,239
to Berkeley at that time so I'm a you

2979
02:39:05,400 --> 02:39:03,329
know I'm a Bay Area girl but um it's

2980
02:39:07,860 --> 02:39:05,410
it's just

2981
02:39:11,340 --> 02:39:07,870
like I'm the continuance of that drop

2982
02:39:12,630 --> 02:39:11,350
yet I didn't live through it and so to

2983
02:39:13,710 --> 02:39:12,640
hear all these people that have lived

2984
02:39:19,770 --> 02:39:13,720
through it you know like yourself

2985
02:39:21,719 --> 02:39:19,780
talking about just your experiences it

2986
02:39:24,810 --> 02:39:21,729
makes it more tangible for me and I know

2987
02:39:27,780 --> 02:39:24,820
that but it it really does and Iona say

2988
02:39:30,030 --> 02:39:27,790
thank you so much for having her as a

2989
02:39:34,139 --> 02:39:30,040
guest and Virg being too honest yourself

2990
02:39:36,389 --> 02:39:34,149
it really made the interview just open

2991
02:39:38,940 --> 02:39:36,399
up and and her teachings are more

2992
02:39:41,280 --> 02:39:38,950
accessible and I'm I'm very thankful

2993
02:39:42,960 --> 02:39:41,290
well you know I hope and thank you for

2994
02:39:45,750 --> 02:39:42,970
the phone call Natasha and I hope that

2995
02:39:50,420 --> 02:39:45,760
have you ever had the opportunity to

2996
02:39:53,520 --> 02:39:50,430
just sit down and talk with Sharon no

2997
02:39:55,440 --> 02:39:53,530
it's pretty it's pretty cool let me tell

2998
02:39:58,830 --> 02:39:55,450
you okay I'm gonna make you laugh right

2999
02:40:02,190 --> 02:39:58,840
now and I hope she's listening so we're

3000
02:40:03,690 --> 02:40:02,200
sitting and were alone and this the two

3001
02:40:05,340 --> 02:40:03,700
of us talking well we have a couple of

3002
02:40:06,860 --> 02:40:05,350
people with us but I'm not I'm saying

3003
02:40:09,929 --> 02:40:06,870
there wasn't hundreds of people and

3004
02:40:11,880 --> 02:40:09,939
we're backstage and we had a couple of

3005
02:40:15,570 --> 02:40:11,890
hours just to sit and talk and this was

3006
02:40:17,670 --> 02:40:15,580
the funny part as we're sitting there

3007
02:40:20,700 --> 02:40:17,680
and I'm looking into her eyes and she's

3008
02:40:23,820 --> 02:40:20,710
you know she's smiling and and listening

3009
02:40:29,880 --> 02:40:23,830
to me and I'm thinking to myself I am a

3010
02:40:32,760 --> 02:40:29,890
doofus I'm speaking with somebody that

3011
02:40:34,710 --> 02:40:32,770
is is totally awakened and enlightened

3012
02:40:37,710 --> 02:40:34,720
and has been to places that I haven't

3013
02:40:41,490 --> 02:40:37,720
been and has a grip and an understanding

3014
02:40:43,920 --> 02:40:41,500
that I do not and I'm trying to engage

3015
02:40:45,810 --> 02:40:43,930
and the conversation was wonderful don't

3016
02:40:47,370 --> 02:40:45,820
get me wrong but I'm sitting there and

3017
02:40:55,290 --> 02:40:47,380
I'm looking into her eyes and I'm just

3018
02:41:00,690 --> 02:40:55,300
thinking to myself I know nothing yes

3019
02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:00,700
yes yes and so in my position and like

3020
02:41:06,210 --> 02:41:03,010
on this show Natasha you have to

3021
02:41:09,929 --> 02:41:06,220
understand where I'm coming from I am

3022
02:41:13,200 --> 02:41:09,939
trying to learn right and the only way

3023
02:41:16,620 --> 02:41:13,210
you learn is from somebody else and you

3024
02:41:18,920 --> 02:41:16,630
and you you pull that knowledge out of

3025
02:41:21,410 --> 02:41:18,930
them and that's my gig that's

3026
02:41:23,150 --> 02:41:21,420
my job and it was just so funny I would

3027
02:41:26,990 --> 02:41:23,160
just remember sitting there with her and

3028
02:41:33,410 --> 02:41:27,000
I would just it's just I have just an

3029
02:41:35,120 --> 02:41:33,420
empty shell you know I just no no but

3030
02:41:37,639 --> 02:41:35,130
that's how I feel you know and that's

3031
02:41:40,880 --> 02:41:37,649
why I wanted yeah you know I want I need

3032
02:41:43,849 --> 02:41:40,890
her to come on the show and teach me and

3033
02:41:45,710 --> 02:41:43,859
if I learned something the audience does

3034
02:41:50,240 --> 02:41:45,720
too at the same time and that's the

3035
02:41:53,090 --> 02:41:50,250
that's what's so wonderful oh great I

3036
02:41:56,360 --> 02:41:53,100
mean I learned so much like I said I

3037
02:41:59,510 --> 02:41:56,370
have like a couple pieces in my little

3038
02:42:01,700 --> 02:41:59,520
notebook of things to look at I'm just

3039
02:42:03,920 --> 02:42:01,710
inspired like you said like I didn't

3040
02:42:07,760 --> 02:42:03,930
know hardly any of this and now I'm

3041
02:42:10,099 --> 02:42:07,770
inspired to go out and learn more well

3042
02:42:13,040 --> 02:42:10,109
welcome to the family this is what this

3043
02:42:15,950 --> 02:42:13,050
show does every single night we cover so

3044
02:42:18,769 --> 02:42:15,960
many different subjects but that's it

3045
02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:18,779
the addiction for you has now started so

3046
02:42:23,240 --> 02:42:21,600
welcome to the family Natasha and have a

3047
02:42:27,769 --> 02:42:23,250
great wonderful rest of your evening

3048
02:42:31,900 --> 02:42:27,779
thank you so much have a great night

3049
02:42:34,429 --> 02:42:31,910
that's see that that right there I win I

3050
02:42:37,790 --> 02:42:34,439
win Thank You Natasha for that phone

3051
02:42:39,439 --> 02:42:37,800
call but but that's exactly what this

3052
02:42:40,820 --> 02:42:39,449
show was about right there at that phone

3053
02:42:43,550 --> 02:42:40,830
call first-time caller

3054
02:42:46,760 --> 02:42:43,560
first time listening to the show and and

3055
02:42:49,540 --> 02:42:46,770
there you go you know that's man I just

3056
02:42:53,950 --> 02:42:49,550
feel good right now feel absolutely good

3057
02:42:57,469 --> 02:42:53,960
all right now there was one thing that

3058
02:42:59,809 --> 02:42:57,479
we started to talk about tonight that I

3059
02:43:05,150 --> 02:42:59,819
think as this show continues we're going

3060
02:43:07,280 --> 02:43:05,160
to expand this thought which is this and

3061
02:43:09,290 --> 02:43:07,290
I've had this enlightenment because I do

3062
02:43:11,900 --> 02:43:09,300
so much research I do so much reading

3063
02:43:14,510 --> 02:43:11,910
and and of course the interviews but and

3064
02:43:17,780 --> 02:43:14,520
and documentaries and I'm trying to

3065
02:43:19,580 --> 02:43:17,790
figure out history and life right I'm

3066
02:43:24,830 --> 02:43:19,590
trying to do that and there's something

3067
02:43:26,750 --> 02:43:24,840
going on now that I'm going to continue

3068
02:43:30,679 --> 02:43:26,760
to explore Rita and I are doing this

3069
02:43:32,300 --> 02:43:30,689
together and that is the obvious but

3070
02:43:35,170 --> 02:43:32,310
nobody wants to reference this

3071
02:43:42,099 --> 02:43:35,180
and that is the geographical

3072
02:43:47,990 --> 02:43:42,109
significance of north eastern Africa

3073
02:43:52,760 --> 02:43:48,000
Syria Iraq the fray teased the tiger is

3074
02:43:56,540 --> 02:43:52,770
the valley the gobekli tepe

3075
02:43:59,569 --> 02:43:56,550
and what is going on in that part of the

3076
02:44:02,179 --> 02:43:59,579
world and the connection and when we are

3077
02:44:05,059 --> 02:44:02,189
dealing with thousands and thousands of

3078
02:44:08,590 --> 02:44:05,069
years and we're only talking about a few

3079
02:44:11,510 --> 02:44:08,600
hundred miles in each direction you know

3080
02:44:14,599 --> 02:44:11,520
walking right it's it's all close and

3081
02:44:16,760 --> 02:44:14,609
over thousands of years there's the the

3082
02:44:19,910 --> 02:44:16,770
influence of these cultures on each

3083
02:44:24,979 --> 02:44:19,920
other is one thing and that is obvious

3084
02:44:29,149 --> 02:44:24,989
but what if there is one source to all

3085
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:29,159
of this and that possibly that all of

3086
02:44:33,859 --> 02:44:31,680
this is the same and now I'm gonna

3087
02:44:36,290 --> 02:44:33,869
continue pushing this I'm gonna figure

3088
02:44:38,510 --> 02:44:36,300
it out it's very difficult to do when

3089
02:44:40,939 --> 02:44:38,520
nobody wants you to find out this this

3090
02:44:45,050 --> 02:44:40,949
knowledge cortana just said armenia

3091
02:44:49,639 --> 02:44:45,060
that's a big big chunk of this big chunk

3092
02:44:53,899 --> 02:44:49,649
not Armenia today when you are Armenian

3093
02:44:54,380 --> 02:44:53,909
there Armenian Highlands went from sea

3094
02:44:58,040 --> 02:44:54,390
to sea

3095
02:45:03,349 --> 02:44:58,050
today Armenia is landlocked it's very

3096
02:45:07,370 --> 02:45:03,359
small but but all of this culture was

3097
02:45:11,149 --> 02:45:07,380
just one and it's a very trippy thing to

3098
02:45:13,639 --> 02:45:11,159
start to think about and the demigods

3099
02:45:16,880 --> 02:45:13,649
and the gods of Egypt and what the

3100
02:45:20,479 --> 02:45:16,890
origination of them I think is something

3101
02:45:23,630 --> 02:45:20,489
that needs to be explored nobody out

3102
02:45:25,550 --> 02:45:23,640
there is doing it that's first off but

3103
02:45:26,809 --> 02:45:25,560
the second part is the history books

3104
02:45:29,389 --> 02:45:26,819
will not do this and they will not

3105
02:45:32,359 --> 02:45:29,399
connect these dots there's something

3106
02:45:35,540 --> 02:45:32,369
going on here there is and and Babylon

3107
02:45:39,889 --> 02:45:35,550
oh man I'm telling you

3108
02:45:42,469 --> 02:45:39,899
wouldn't it be trippy if all of this was

3109
02:45:46,051 --> 02:45:42,479
connected and all from one source think

3110
02:45:49,740 --> 02:45:46,061
about that for a second you know and and

3111
02:45:52,650 --> 02:45:49,750
and Sharon gets it and I know that those

3112
02:45:55,740 --> 02:45:52,660
out there that that are awakened that

3113
02:45:59,400 --> 02:45:55,750
they understand this the history did not

3114
02:46:03,841 --> 02:45:59,410
start at 3000 BC it just simply did not

3115
02:46:08,100 --> 02:46:03,851
so and I talk about that a lot but if

3116
02:46:11,100 --> 02:46:08,110
you push this back if you push this back

3117
02:46:13,980 --> 02:46:11,110
just a little bit further I'm telling

3118
02:46:17,341 --> 02:46:13,990
you all of these not only bloodlines and

3119
02:46:20,430 --> 02:46:17,351
gods and and megalithic structures and

3120
02:46:23,461 --> 02:46:20,440
in history and culture and and the laws

3121
02:46:27,810 --> 02:46:23,471
and and where everything it's all from

3122
02:46:30,091 --> 02:46:27,820
one and I'm getting closer to it so I'm

3123
02:46:31,711 --> 02:46:30,101
gonna push this and so was Rita and we

3124
02:46:35,220 --> 02:46:31,721
are going to figure this out together

3125
02:46:36,690 --> 02:46:35,230
and there you go so just think about

3126
02:46:40,381 --> 02:46:36,700
that for a second I'm putting these

3127
02:46:44,370 --> 02:46:40,391
thoughts in your head so as the show

3128
02:46:45,810 --> 02:46:44,380
continues over the years we're gonna put

3129
02:46:48,001 --> 02:46:45,820
this thing together man we're gonna

3130
02:46:50,070 --> 02:46:48,011
figure this thing out we're gonna figure

3131
02:46:51,751 --> 02:46:50,080
it out we're gonna do it together all

3132
02:46:55,620 --> 02:46:51,761
right where am I at

3133
02:46:58,890 --> 02:46:55,630
I'm looking at my new atomic clock oh oh

3134
02:47:01,680 --> 02:46:58,900
during the pre-show tonight speaking

3135
02:47:03,301 --> 02:47:01,690
with everybody I told him what happened

3136
02:47:04,560 --> 02:47:03,311
last night during this show I don't

3137
02:47:07,370 --> 02:47:04,570
think I mentioned this at the beginning

3138
02:47:10,051 --> 02:47:07,380
of the show if I'm repeating myself I

3139
02:47:13,110 --> 02:47:10,061
apologize but last night with Daymond

3140
02:47:15,900 --> 02:47:13,120
Barry I have an atomic clock atomic

3141
02:47:17,551 --> 02:47:15,910
clock obviously means just that there's

3142
02:47:20,970 --> 02:47:17,561
a radio signal that feeds the world

3143
02:47:23,881 --> 02:47:20,980
comes out of of Colorado and spouse

3144
02:47:27,360 --> 02:47:23,891
around but atomic clocks lock on to this

3145
02:47:30,410 --> 02:47:27,370
so everybody is in lockstep that second

3146
02:47:33,091 --> 02:47:30,420
hand crosses midnight it's the same

3147
02:47:35,461 --> 02:47:33,101
second hand crossing at the exact same

3148
02:47:38,341 --> 02:47:35,471
time all around the world right so but

3149
02:47:41,070 --> 02:47:38,351
you need that in broadcast okay click

3150
02:47:43,830 --> 02:47:41,080
click click click click 7:00 p.m.

3151
02:47:47,570 --> 02:47:43,840
boom done everything fires up right well

3152
02:47:50,520 --> 02:47:47,580
last night my atomic clock at 9:42 p.m.

3153
02:47:52,230 --> 02:47:50,530
stopped and I'm looking at it now

3154
02:47:53,520 --> 02:47:52,240
remember that means I have 18 minutes

3155
02:47:54,870 --> 02:47:53,530
left in the show I've got Daymond

3156
02:47:56,791 --> 02:47:54,880
Teaberry yeah we're doing an interview

3157
02:47:59,341 --> 02:47:56,801
and we're talking

3158
02:48:00,451 --> 02:47:59,351
and after a few minutes maybe five

3159
02:48:02,461 --> 02:48:00,461
minutes we're due tonight and I just

3160
02:48:04,921 --> 02:48:02,471
glanced up at the clock to see where I'm

3161
02:48:07,650 --> 02:48:04,931
at for the end of the show and it was

3162
02:48:10,070 --> 02:48:07,660
still at 9:42 and so I'm thinking of

3163
02:48:12,570 --> 02:48:10,080
myself wow that's kind of weird

3164
02:48:14,730 --> 02:48:12,580
it seems like we've been talking for

3165
02:48:18,390 --> 02:48:14,740
about five minutes but I guess we only

3166
02:48:21,690 --> 02:48:18,400
talked for 30 seconds so I'm tripping

3167
02:48:24,211 --> 02:48:21,700
right okay well anyway and I'm

3168
02:48:27,270 --> 02:48:24,221
continuing the count and I look up again

3169
02:48:30,211 --> 02:48:27,280
and it's still at 9:42 and I'm thinking

3170
02:48:32,430 --> 02:48:30,221
about that's not is my atomic clock not

3171
02:48:36,331 --> 02:48:32,440
working but the second hand is clicking

3172
02:48:38,610 --> 02:48:36,341
I look down on one of my computer

3173
02:48:40,680 --> 02:48:38,620
screens here in the studio and I look

3174
02:48:45,541 --> 02:48:40,690
down and it's 9:55

3175
02:48:49,201 --> 02:48:45,551
oh whoa whoa whoa I gotta run credits I

3176
02:48:50,820 --> 02:48:49,211
got to get out of here and that's what

3177
02:48:52,020 --> 02:48:50,830
happened last night during the show so I

3178
02:48:55,400 --> 02:48:52,030
want you to think about that for a

3179
02:49:00,241 --> 02:48:55,410
second I thought one minute went by and

3180
02:49:03,091 --> 02:49:00,251
no it was more like 15 and I had no

3181
02:49:06,001 --> 02:49:03,101
concept of it I literally thought we

3182
02:49:08,491 --> 02:49:06,011
were dealing with seconds while that

3183
02:49:10,980 --> 02:49:08,501
interview was going on and suddenly I

3184
02:49:13,470 --> 02:49:10,990
had to jump in today man ago okay end of

3185
02:49:15,390 --> 02:49:13,480
the show right there Damon say hi said I

3186
02:49:18,301 --> 02:49:15,400
had to run credits and that's what

3187
02:49:20,461 --> 02:49:18,311
happened so now I've got a new atomic

3188
02:49:22,711 --> 02:49:20,471
clock but this one instead of being

3189
02:49:26,070 --> 02:49:22,721
analog with hands that we're all used to

3190
02:49:28,350 --> 02:49:26,080
this one's digital like we run over at

3191
02:49:32,251 --> 02:49:28,360
coast to coast so now I'm running a

3192
02:49:35,511 --> 02:49:32,261
digital atomic clock totally different

3193
02:49:40,711 --> 02:49:35,521
vibe here going on in the studio I have

3194
02:49:42,991 --> 02:49:40,721
a feel with that I get from an analog

3195
02:49:45,331 --> 02:49:43,001
atomic clock it's still digital but

3196
02:49:48,541 --> 02:49:45,341
after you understand what I'm saying so

3197
02:49:51,091 --> 02:49:48,551
now I've got a new digital clock in

3198
02:49:53,551 --> 02:49:51,101
front of me with the seconds countdown

3199
02:49:56,371 --> 02:49:53,561
totally different bizarre feel okay

3200
02:49:59,640 --> 02:49:56,381
before I get out of here check this out

3201
02:50:03,180 --> 02:49:59,650
one of my favorite movies of all time

3202
02:50:08,551 --> 02:50:03,190
right up there with the godfather 2001 a

3203
02:50:10,890 --> 02:50:08,561
Space Odyssey is Spaceballs love it I

3204
02:50:13,320 --> 02:50:10,900
make the references here all the time

3205
02:50:16,560 --> 02:50:13,330
we're in the now now right there's a

3206
02:50:19,200 --> 02:50:16,570
scene with Mel Brooks where he opens up

3207
02:50:25,980 --> 02:50:19,210
his desk drawer and he breaks out a can

3208
02:50:26,940 --> 02:50:25,990
of pari air he opens it up and he's he's

3209
02:50:31,830 --> 02:50:26,950
breathing

3210
02:50:35,490 --> 02:50:31,840
the peri air now all of us watching that

3211
02:50:39,841 --> 02:50:35,500
scene would always think huh it'll never

3212
02:50:42,860 --> 02:50:39,851
come to that peri air you know the water

3213
02:50:47,190 --> 02:50:42,870
thing is is something that we've become

3214
02:50:49,860 --> 02:50:47,200
acclimated to in society Perrier but

3215
02:50:54,690 --> 02:50:49,870
peri air right well check this out

3216
02:50:58,020 --> 02:50:54,700
sometimes art imitates life right well

3217
02:51:01,890 --> 02:50:58,030
there's a swiss start-up right now that

3218
02:51:04,770 --> 02:51:01,900
is bottling fresh air from switzerland

3219
02:51:08,070 --> 02:51:04,780
to sell the residence around the world

3220
02:51:10,261 --> 02:51:08,080
in polluted cities I'm not making this

3221
02:51:13,051 --> 02:51:10,271
up and according to the company the air

3222
02:51:16,740 --> 02:51:13,061
is collected from various locations

3223
02:51:19,080 --> 02:51:16,750
around the Swiss Alps and compressed

3224
02:51:22,680 --> 02:51:19,090
into an aerosol can

3225
02:51:25,051 --> 02:51:22,690
it comes with an attached facemask right

3226
02:51:28,670 --> 02:51:25,061
so you can put it up perry air man I'm

3227
02:51:35,310 --> 02:51:28,680
not making him put it and breathe

3228
02:51:39,210 --> 02:51:35,320
Swissair a 7 liter can of air costs 1995

3229
02:51:44,280 --> 02:51:39,220
swiss francs or 21 bucks and contains

3230
02:51:49,770 --> 02:51:44,290
enough air for 120 breaths which is

3231
02:51:53,551 --> 02:51:49,780
around 120 or I'm sorry it's around 10

3232
02:51:55,130 --> 02:51:53,561
minutes of use now think about this for

3233
02:51:59,910 --> 02:51:55,140
a second

3234
02:52:02,551 --> 02:51:59,920
think about this so when seeing this and

3235
02:52:04,680 --> 02:52:02,561
thank you Mark for posting that I'm

3236
02:52:07,080 --> 02:52:04,690
gonna retweet it I'm not making this up

3237
02:52:12,030 --> 02:52:07,090
this is actually real thank you Bob you

3238
02:52:14,580 --> 02:52:12,040
got it up there too I went and sourced

3239
02:52:17,520 --> 02:52:14,590
this out and when I did it started

3240
02:52:19,230 --> 02:52:17,530
popping up in my Facebook feed different

3241
02:52:24,629 --> 02:52:19,240
companies around the world that had been

3242
02:52:31,260 --> 02:52:29,159
what is it the three our energy

3243
02:52:34,979 --> 02:52:31,270
five-hour energy whatever do you come

3244
02:52:37,559 --> 02:52:34,989
that companies has been selling air for

3245
02:52:40,499 --> 02:52:37,569
a while peer oxygen you can get it in

3246
02:52:43,109 --> 02:52:40,509
spearmint peppermint pomegranate I'm

3247
02:52:44,939 --> 02:52:43,119
making it up grapefruit making it up but

3248
02:52:49,079 --> 02:52:44,949
I didn't know that

3249
02:52:54,689 --> 02:52:49,089
and you can buy and it's expensive these

3250
02:52:58,229 --> 02:52:54,699
little cans oxygen right unbelievable

3251
02:53:00,779 --> 02:52:58,239
but oh oh and some of the pictures that

3252
02:53:03,419 --> 02:53:00,789
I saw it's sold in the candy section at

3253
02:53:06,149 --> 02:53:03,429
like 7-eleven I don't know how I've

3254
02:53:08,699 --> 02:53:06,159
missed it but apparently you've been

3255
02:53:11,760 --> 02:53:08,709
able to buy this for a while I am just

3256
02:53:15,300 --> 02:53:11,770
shocked absolutely shocked

3257
02:53:17,789 --> 02:53:15,310
alright now for the first time in 50

3258
02:53:20,639 --> 02:53:17,799
years I'm looking at my digital clock

3259
02:53:22,559 --> 02:53:20,649
I've got exactly 60 seconds before the

3260
02:53:25,019 --> 02:53:22,569
end of the show for the first time in 50

3261
02:53:27,209 --> 02:53:25,029
years the ruins of Chichen itzá are

3262
02:53:30,510 --> 02:53:27,219
being investigated by archaeologists the

3263
02:53:32,929 --> 02:53:30,520
team from the great Maya aquifer project

3264
02:53:35,849 --> 02:53:32,939
aim to discover if the local legends of

3265
02:53:38,879 --> 02:53:35,859
tunnels and an underworld are true and

3266
02:53:41,189 --> 02:53:38,889
that Mayan pyramid was built over a

3267
02:53:43,590 --> 02:53:41,199
thousand years ago now there have been

3268
02:53:46,109 --> 02:53:43,600
rumors about these passageways and rooms

3269
02:53:48,209 --> 02:53:46,119
that go underneath the temple of

3270
02:53:50,099 --> 02:53:48,219
Kukulkan well they've got

3271
02:53:51,569 --> 02:53:50,109
ground-penetrating radar and they're

3272
02:53:53,879 --> 02:53:51,579
going to be using this to search the

3273
02:53:56,789 --> 02:53:53,889
surrounding area of chichen itza for

3274
02:53:59,010 --> 02:53:56,799
tunnels and caves using kayak mounted

3275
02:54:01,469 --> 02:53:59,020
sonar to explore underground water

3276
02:54:04,019 --> 02:54:01,479
systems and it's been spoken about in

3277
02:54:06,359 --> 02:54:04,029
mayan oral history but it's never been

3278
02:54:09,809 --> 02:54:06,369
confirmed the project right now is

3279
02:54:11,789 --> 02:54:09,819
currently underway and in a couple of

3280
02:54:14,369 --> 02:54:11,799
weeks we're gonna start getting some of

3281
02:54:16,709 --> 02:54:14,379
the results they've already found two

3282
02:54:20,429 --> 02:54:16,719
submerged caves that they didn't know

3283
02:54:23,039 --> 02:54:20,439
were there and this concludes another

3284
02:54:26,849 --> 02:54:23,049
episode of fade to black

3285
02:54:29,149 --> 02:54:26,859
with my new digital atomic clock fade to

3286
02:54:31,859 --> 02:54:29,159
black executive producers Rita Kumari on

3287
02:54:34,229 --> 02:54:31,869
shows produced by Hill Jay Paul Marty

3288
02:54:35,519 --> 02:54:34,239
Cove RLJ 3 Renee Jonas Thank You Dennis

3289
02:54:37,589 --> 02:54:35,529
thank you Bob

3290
02:54:40,739 --> 02:54:37,599
announcer czars team harder Jean Patou a

3291
02:54:43,229 --> 02:54:40,749
marked eco barf ad by del webmaster is

3292
02:54:47,519 --> 02:54:43,239
Drew the key music doug aldrich intro

3293
02:54:53,549 --> 02:54:47,529
space boy space boy music.com fade to

3294
02:54:55,739 --> 02:54:53,559
black is produced by kjsurya the planet

3295
02:54:58,979 --> 02:54:55,749
thank you to Sharon Rose tonight for the

3296
02:55:02,249 --> 02:54:58,989
amazing conversation this podcast on a

3297
02:55:03,779 --> 02:55:02,259
copyright of 2017 I fade to black in the

3298
02:55:06,419 --> 02:55:03,789
game changer Network it cannot be

3299
02:55:08,549 --> 02:55:06,429
rebroadcast download a copy or use

3300
02:55:10,469 --> 02:55:08,559
anywhere in the known universe without

3301
02:55:12,809 --> 02:55:10,479
written permission from fade to black or

3302
02:55:13,049 --> 02:55:12,819
the game changer network until tomorrow

3303
02:55:18,539 --> 02:55:13,059
night

3304
02:55:20,969 --> 02:55:18,549
more fake newsroom live

3305
02:55:24,659 --> 02:55:20,979
I'm your host Jimmy Church follow me on

3306
02:55:25,289 --> 02:55:24,669
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3307
02:55:31,030 --> 02:55:25,299
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